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Windows 7: What don't you like about Windows 7?

19 Mar 2010   #1481
cbleman

XP Media Edition / Vista /Win 7 Home Premium
 
 

For those that feel access to files should be restricted, I'll just have to agree to disagree. It shouldn't be up to someone else to decide which files I "Need" access to.

Another thing. Being an administrator is all about responsibility. Not being all knowing. If you claim to be an administrator and crash a system, it's your own stupid fault and nobody else’s. Yes, it is true, that Joe average user doesn’t need access to some files. The truth is Joe (or Joan) will probably not even look for these files because either they don't care, or it's beyond the scope of their knowledge. Protection for these people is nice. Anybody that looks for a file however, and wants to take responsibility for modifying it, should be able to. ANY file. No explination needed. No jumping through hoops. I personally haven’t run across one yet, (I either don't care or it's beyond the scope of my knowledge. ) but I hear even in the secret Admin mode, there are still files that cannot be modified. Anyone know the truth of that last statement?



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19 Mar 2010   #1482
logicearth

Windows 10 Pro (x64)
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by cbleman View Post
For those that feel access to files should be restricted, I'll just have to agree to disagree. It shouldn't be up to someone else to decide which files I "Need" access to.
And no one is, you CAN change it. But WHY should it be open by default? Hell Microsoft should forget about security all together and put you bare face on the internet with no means to protect yourself. That is what everyone wants! So lets do that!

Quote:
but I hear even in the secret Admin mode, there are still files that cannot be modified. Anyone know the truth of that last statement?

No truth. Everything can be accessed with the right knowledge.
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19 Mar 2010   #1483
CarlTR6

Windows 7 Ultimate 32 bit
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by cbleman View Post
but I hear even in the secret Admin mode, there are still files that cannot be modified. Anyone know the truth of that last statement?
You hear correctly. There are still files/folders with which you have to change permissions or take ownership. In reality, the "secret" administrator is in reality an advanced user account. But as the previous poster said, you can access anything if you know how.
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19 Mar 2010   #1484
Raargh

Windows 7 Pro x64 (dual-booting XPSP3 and Win7)
 
 

The Horrible harsh white explorer backgrounds in Aero still are blinding me. Been struggling to modify aero.msstyles , but run into obstacle after obstacle. Why MS made this so horribly hard to change is beyond me. It was trivial in WinNT, Win2k, and WinXP. If I ever manage to fix it I promise I will write a noob-friendly, step-by-step tutorial. I've been in this thread, it seems to be the best one but I am still stuck:

https://www.sevenforums.com/customization/38975-win-explorer-background-change-3.html#post491306

Also still frustrated by Win7's refusing to always default to "detailed" view in all folder windows, despite trying everything I can think of to make it listen - it maddeningly insists that it knows best, showing thumbnails, or icons, when I only want DETAILS, always, without exception.

In general, Win7 tries to decide for me what is best. I desperately want to turn all of that decision process off, and make it stay off! I and only I, know what is best to maximize my productivity. Win7 is not HAL 9000; it always gets it wrong when it tries to "help".

But the colors are pretty and it seems sort of more stable than XP. A little more. Runs faster - but I'm comparing Win7x64 with XPx32 on the same dual-boot box.

$teve
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19 Mar 2010   #1485
Kari

Microsoft Community Contributor Award Recipient

 

Steve, it's OK to be funny but honestly, this disturbs me every time I see your posts:
What don't you like about Windows 7?-raargh.png

Not the text itself but that it is too long.

Don't misunderstand me, it's up to you what you write here to present you. I'm just telling my opinion.

Kari


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20 Mar 2010   #1486
fseal

Windows 7 x64 Ultimate
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Raargh View Post

Also still frustrated by Win7's refusing to always default to "detailed" view in all folder windows, despite trying everything I can think of to make it listen - it maddeningly insists that it knows best, showing thumbnails, or icons, when I only want DETAILS, always, without exception.

$teve
This is insanely maddening. I've "Fixed:" it on mine by hand setting all of the built-in "modes" (Pictures, Documents, Music, Videos) to all have the exact same layout and options as "General Items". Then when it tries to autopick something, it always looks the same (the way I set it up) and I don't even know it's done it.

Now if I can only remember how I did that...

[Edit] THe second half of this vista tutorial may have done the trick for me... http://www.vistax64.com/tutorials/77...templates.html

Basically you set a folder to each template type, then set all the settings exactly as you want them the same for each one. Then when it auto selects a template it's always the same layout.

You have to do each one seperately. Find a folder. Assign it a template (Documents for example). Set all the layoutsettings, columns sorting, icon size etc. Then tools, view Apply to all folders. It will apply it to all folders with that template.

I am not sure that if you create a new fiolder and it assigns the pictures template to it if it sticks though. 've not seen theproblem crop up in memory since I did thias, but I don;t create root level folders all that often after initial setup.
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20 Mar 2010   #1487
cloud8521

 

I hate how it thinks its all that..... and it is
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21 Mar 2010   #1488
cbleman

XP Media Edition / Vista /Win 7 Home Premium
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by logicearth View Post
And no one is, you CAN change it. But WHY should it be open by default? Hell Microsoft should forget about security all together and put you bare face on the internet with no means to protect yourself. That is what everyone wants! So lets do that!
So I guess what you're trying to say is, if some breaks into my computer through the internet, it makes it easier to get into my files. Otherwise, what does one thing have to do with the other?

I know when people disagree, sometimes it's frustrating. Please don't take this personally. I respect you, and what you are saying. If we met IRL you could even be a friend. I just (Personally) feel MS went overboard with security. It detracts from my computing experience. The security they did come up with, is overt and intrusive. I feel no effort was made to make the security transparent.

(Point) A door lock can be picked, so spme people put a dead bolt on to help secure the door. Since the dead bolt can be picked, you can also put 2 more locks on, and have different keys for them all. The security is great! but it makes it a pain to open the door.

Open by default? Maybe not. Easy access to turn it off or reconfigure it? Yeah that's the ticket. If someone wants to turn off UAC, why not make it easy to do it, and easy to find. Some will say it is easy already. Easy for whom. Do you really have to be an advanced user, or go through a ton of research to get rid of something you consider to be a pain? The ability to choose NOT to jump through hoops to access files, or renew an IP address would be nice too.

To some there cannot be to much security, and no sacrifice is to great in the name of security. I'm not one of those people. As much as I hate to compare apples and oranges, XP has no where near the security, and I NEVER had a problem.

Just a point of view. Thanks for listening.
Scott
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21 Mar 2010   #1489
logicearth

Windows 10 Pro (x64)
 
 

@cbleman, then why don't you just remove the security? Right-click on the "C" drive > Properties > Security tab > Advance > Owner > Edit > Other user > type in "Everyone" OK > Select the checkbox > OK (wait) > Permissions > Edit > Add > type in "Everyone" OK > Full Control > OK > Last checkbox > OK. No more security.

But in no way should Microsoft make this default, that would be just stupid. The way things are now is the way it has to be. In my own opinion it should be even more restricted. The things you want access to you do not need access to them, wanting to have permission just for the sack of it, is a ridiculous notion.

Whether you had problems or not is irrelevant, you are the only user out there.
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21 Mar 2010   #1490
Dzomlija

Windows 7 Ultimate x64
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by logicearth View Post
@cbleman, then why don't you just remove the security? Right-click on the "C" drive > Properties > Security tab > Advance > Owner > Edit > Other user > type in "Everyone" OK > Select the checkbox > OK (wait) > Permissions > Edit > Add > type in "Everyone" OK > Full Control > OK > Last checkbox > OK. No more security.

But in no way should Microsoft make this default, that would be just stupid. The way things are now is the way it has to be. In my own opinion it should be even more restricted. The things you want access to you do not need access to them, wanting to have permission just for the sack of it, is a ridiculous notion.

Whether you had problems or not is irrelevant, you are the only user out there.
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by cbleman View Post
Open by default? Maybe not. Easy access to turn it off or reconfigure it? Yeah that's the ticket. If someone wants to turn off UAC, why not make it easy to do it, and easy to find. Some will say it is easy already. Easy for whom. Do you really have to be an advanced user, or go through a ton of research to get rid of something you consider to be a pain? The ability to choose NOT to jump through hoops to access files, or renew an IP address would be nice too.
I agree with LogicEarth. If you really don't want the advanced security, then Windows does provide the means with which to turn it off.

And the fact that you need to be a relatively advanced user to disable the security or other components is right on the ticket. In my experience, most of the problems I've encountered with Windows (any version) are from the novice users who change something for the sake of doing so, and screw things up in the process with no idea how to set it back.

Quite frankly, I personally believe that the ability to disable that which is designed to protect the stability of the system could use a bit more of a lockdown, and have it made even harder to turn off.
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