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Windows 7: What don't you like about Windows 7?

05 May 2010   #1621
cbleman

XP Media Edition / Vista /Win 7 Home Premium
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by pezzonovante View Post
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by cbleman View Post
I'm glad it dosn't bug you. If we all vote on this here, the thread will be swamped. Lets just agree Millions of users don't like (Hate) it. Me included. (oops I voted.)
It doesn't bug me either. I always set it to the max. What bugs me is people who turn it off, gets infected with malware and then blame Microsoft for making an insecure OS.
This is true also. "Ya makes yo choices, ya payz de price." If I turn it off and something happens, I have nobody to blame but myself. I agree. Nobody should blame MS for the choices they make. I still hate it, and belive it should be easier for Joe Avarage to make that decision and turn it off. This is a VERY hot topic, and there are others that believe it's to easy to shut it down now. I will agree to disagree on that point too.
A white list would be nice though. It would cut down on the "nags". Zone Alarm, a very popular fire wall has one, and it seems to work. It's not security that I object to, it's intrusive security that bothers me.


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05 May 2010   #1622
logicearth

Windows 10 Pro (x64)
 
 

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So why does MS get to make Sym links for us, yet not provide a way for the average person to create them?
Why does an average user need to create Symlinks? Can you give any example that is not an edge case? Would you an average user even understand what a Symlink is? Would they understand the difference between Symlinks and Hardlinks or even Junctions? So Microsoft muck up the user interface giving the user a dozen choices along with Copy and Move?

Like I said, those who need have it and can get third-party developers to expose it. Which one developer already has: http://schinagl.priv.at/nt/hardlinks...kshellext.html
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06 May 2010   #1623
HellionDarklord

Window 7 Home Premium Dual Boot Ubuntu Linux
 
 

The thing about windows 7 that really bothers me is it's overall inability to allow the user to change things about the core operating system. There are many many hidden things that even advanced users cannot open and change. How can one change the boot screen to something cooler than the windows logo? How can I choose what data is loaded into memory by Superfetch? How do I optimize Internet Explorer the way I do FireFox? How do I make a process like a guitar amplifier emulator always have real-time priority every time it is opened? How do I make Real-time work better?

I don't think it is possible to do these things. I just wish that I could get under the hood and try some stuff. I don't care if I'm constantly reinstalling. I do that anyway with Linux, it is the process of learning, ie... okay I shouldn't use a deprecated thing in the Kernel because it might not be compatible with everything that I want to use that depends on it... now I know! Yeah, I have to spend the next 12 hours going through the kernel again, and can't have everything I think I want, but at least I was able to try it.

Why can't Windows have a real community of developers who can tell you how to go about doing something you want to do with your computer? I have sent dozens of emails, and what to I get? ....NOTHING! The people who are "trained" to do the support know less than I do.

Thanks for providing a place to complain.

HD
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06 May 2010   #1624
pezzonovante

Windows 7 RTM x86
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by HellionDarklord View Post
The thing about windows 7 that really bothers me is it's overall inability to allow the user to change things about the core operating system. There are many many hidden things that even advanced users cannot open and change. How can one change the boot screen to something cooler than the windows logo? How can I choose what data is loaded into memory by Superfetch? How do I optimize Internet Explorer the way I do FireFox? How do I make a process like a guitar amplifier emulator always have real-time priority every time it is opened? How do I make Real-time work better?

I don't think it is possible to do these things. I just wish that I could get under the hood and try some stuff. I don't care if I'm constantly reinstalling. I do that anyway with Linux, it is the process of learning, ie... okay I shouldn't use a deprecated thing in the Kernel because it might not be compatible with everything that I want to use that depends on it... now I know! Yeah, I have to spend the next 12 hours going through the kernel again, and can't have everything I think I want, but at least I was able to try it.

Why can't Windows have a real community of developers who can tell you how to go about doing something you want to do with your computer? I have sent dozens of emails, and what to I get? ....NOTHING! The people who are "trained" to do the support know less than I do.

Thanks for providing a place to complain.

HD
You don't learn by tweaking. You learn by reading books. If you want to understand how Windows works, read this book: Windows® Internals: Including Windows Server 2008 and Windows Vista, Fifth Edition (PRO-Developer)
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06 May 2010   #1625
cbleman

XP Media Edition / Vista /Win 7 Home Premium
 
 

You learn by doing both.

Hacking the OS is discouraged
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06 May 2010   #1626
CarlTR6

Windows 7 Ultimate 32 bit
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by HellionDarklord View Post
The thing about windows 7 that really bothers me is it's overall inability to allow the user to change things about the core operating system. There are many many hidden things that even advanced users cannot open and change.
This is by design for security. XP was pretty open and it was a security nightmare. You need to remember than Win 7 is designed for the average user and the corporate user, depending on the version. It is deliberately designed to make it difficult to hack. That is the goal. It is not open source as is Linux. MS does not want the core system changed.

That said, an advanced user user CAN do a lot more than you think. However, as you get into the system, you may well find that changing something has unintended consequences where you did not expect it. If you really want to did deeply, do get a couple of the excellent books on Win 7.

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How can one change the boot screen to something cooler than the windows logo? How can I choose what data is loaded into memory by Superfetch? How do I optimize Internet Explorer the way I do FireFox? How do I make a process like a guitar amplifier emulator always have real-time priority every time it is opened? How do I make Real-time work better?
There is a thread on changing the Boot Screen; it can be done; but it is complex. The Logon screen can be changed rather easily. There is a thread on this also.

Log On Screen - Change

Log On Screen - Change or Remove Text Branding

Change Boot Logo/Screen?

Quote:
I don't think it is possible to do these things. I just wish that I could get under the hood and try some stuff. I don't care if I'm constantly reinstalling. I do that anyway with Linux, it is the process of learning, ie... okay I shouldn't use a deprecated thing in the Kernel because it might not be compatible with everything that I want to use that depends on it... now I know! Yeah, I have to spend the next 12 hours going through the kernel again, and can't have everything I think I want, but at least I was able to try it.

Why can't Windows have a real community of developers who can tell you how to go about doing something you want to do with your computer? I have sent dozens of emails, and what to I get? ....NOTHING! The people who are "trained" to do the support know less than I do.

Thanks for providing a place to complain.

HD
Win 7 does have a community of developers - paid by MS. And what you have is what they developed. Win 7 is doing exactly what it was designed to do. True, it was definitely not designed to make it easy to alter the core. That is the security aspect. That makes it difficult for an outsider to hack your system.
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06 May 2010   #1627
fseal

Windows 7 x64 Ultimate
 
 

If you are talking about /acutal developers/ there are several communities.

One of my frequent hauts is Your Development Resource - CodeProject

And unlike most "Open Source" communities, this one is truly open and free. Source and samples are given free for all use in nearly all cases.

Not to mention the large number of Microsoft newsgroups that have actualy MS developers that will help with issues.

MSDN on line is also free: http://msdn.microsoft.com Click on Community then check out al the sides on the right hand side under "Resources For the Community". There is a good dozen other "community" sites with tons of resources, code, help and forums available.
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06 May 2010   #1628
Rhammstein

HP Win7 Pro x64 | Custom Win7 Pro x64
 
 

Absolutely nothing, at all. I call on the rest of the market, ALL of it, to pick up the slack and damnit get to work!

Of all people...eh I won't say the name, but I have a $2,500 piece of audio hardware that STILL doesn't have 64 bit drivers that work, whether on XP/Vista/7. This is what I'm talking about, but it's far far worse in much bigger companies with huge markets that simply program at a very, very poor level and should be ashamed.

We need to recognize where the problems lie and properly orient ourselves to them, before we lay blame on Windows. If you sit back and think about it, it's pretty damn amazing what Xp/Vista/7 can do, period.

Peace
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06 May 2010   #1629
Tarka Dal

Stools
 
 
Nothing wrong with it!

7 is going to be the best OS for some years to come...Unless you personally have a fault with it. There are going to have to be many advancements before 7 becomes obsolete.
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06 May 2010   #1630
HellionDarklord

Window 7 Home Premium Dual Boot Ubuntu Linux
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by CarlTR6 View Post
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by HellionDarklord View Post
The thing about windows 7 that really bothers me is it's overall inability to allow the user to change things about the core operating system. There are many many hidden things that even advanced users cannot open and change.
This is by design for security. XP was pretty open and it was a security nightmare. You need to remember than Win 7 is designed for the average user and the corporate user, depending on the version. It is deliberately designed to make it difficult to hack. That is the goal. It is not open source as is Linux. MS does not want the core system changed.

That said, an advanced user user CAN do a lot more than you think. However, as you get into the system, you may well find that changing something has unintended consequences where you did not expect it. If you really want to did deeply, do get a couple of the excellent books on Win 7.

Quote:
How can one change the boot screen to something cooler than the windows logo? How can I choose what data is loaded into memory by Superfetch? How do I optimize Internet Explorer the way I do FireFox? How do I make a process like a guitar amplifier emulator always have real-time priority every time it is opened? How do I make Real-time work better?
There is a thread on changing the Boot Screen; it can be done; but it is complex. The Logon screen can be changed rather easily. There is a thread on this also.

Log On Screen - Change

Log On Screen - Change or Remove Text Branding

Change Boot Logo/Screen?

Quote:
I don't think it is possible to do these things. I just wish that I could get under the hood and try some stuff. I don't care if I'm constantly reinstalling. I do that anyway with Linux, it is the process of learning, ie... okay I shouldn't use a deprecated thing in the Kernel because it might not be compatible with everything that I want to use that depends on it... now I know! Yeah, I have to spend the next 12 hours going through the kernel again, and can't have everything I think I want, but at least I was able to try it.

Why can't Windows have a real community of developers who can tell you how to go about doing something you want to do with your computer? I have sent dozens of emails, and what to I get? ....NOTHING! The people who are "trained" to do the support know less than I do.

Thanks for providing a place to complain.

HD
Win 7 does have a community of developers - paid by MS. And what you have is what they developed. Win 7 is doing exactly what it was designed to do. True, it was definitely not designed to make it easy to alter the core. That is the security aspect. That makes it difficult for an outsider to hack your system.

WOW! thanks for that!!!! maybe I can get real-time audio going!!
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