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Windows 7: What don't you like about Windows 7?

13 Aug 2010   #1911
Petey7

Windows 7 Professional SP1 64-bit
 
 

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Yes, it so annoying when after doing a clean install my mouse, keyboard, display, sound, and internet all work. JP is absolutely right. We need it to be like the Windows 98 First Edition days. Who's with me?
Ew. What is your icon supposed to be?
What icon?

EDIT: do you mean my avatar? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yoda

EDIT2: also, I love how you completely missed the point of my post apparently.


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13 Aug 2010   #1912
Darician

Windows 7 Ultimate x64 SP1
 
 

I believe that something is better than nothing. True, the manufacturer should develop a driver but if Windows 7 can give basic functionality, again, something is better than nothing.

And an Audio Advantage SRM, that's a great audio card. I have an Audio Advantage Amigo and kind of wish I had bought the SRM instead.
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14 Aug 2010   #1913
typ911411and718

windows 7 | Vista
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Petey7 View Post
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by jp2code View Post
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Petey7 View Post
Yes, it so annoying when after doing a clean install my mouse, keyboard, display, sound, and internet all work. JP is absolutely right. We need it to be like the Windows 98 First Edition days. Who's with me?
Ew. What is your icon supposed to be?
What icon?

EDIT: do you mean my avatar? Yoda - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

EDIT2: also, I love how you completely missed the point of my post apparently.

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAAAAHAHAHA....they didn't know yoda....oh that's rich....
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14 Aug 2010   #1914
typ911411and718

windows 7 | Vista
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Darician View Post
I believe that something is better than nothing. True, the manufacturer should develop a driver but if Windows 7 can give basic functionality, again, something is better than nothing.

And an Audio Advantage SRM, that's a great audio card. I have an Audio Advantage Amigo and kind of wish I had bought the SRM instead.

i disagree...in fact, i disagree greatly..."something" isnt' better than nothing when it comes to a company that's been around for decades, with countless softwares, countless upgrades, countless bug fixes... a company like that should not be giving us "something"...they should be giving us "THE thing"


i don't believe i'm being too harsh on this issue. this company has experienced too much and knows too much to be failing so successfully. it's about time we, the users, see some indisputable programing and options.
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14 Aug 2010   #1915
Darician

Windows 7 Ultimate x64 SP1
 
 

When I said something, I meant if a driver is provided built-in to Windows 7, then something is better than nothing. As far as the manufacturer, yes, they should develop a full driver but they probably won't because there's no real money incentive for them to do so.
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14 Aug 2010   #1916
Petey7

Windows 7 Professional SP1 64-bit
 
 

Dude or Dudette with the really long name, you do realize that the drivers are made by the hard ware manufacturers, not MS right? The drivers availability through Windows Updates is partially dependent on those hardware manufacturers. The drivers built into Windows and available through Windows Updates are meant to get the basic devices to at least function. It is the responsibility of the owner to find the correct drivers for their computers, not Microsofts. At least with Windows 7 most if not all hardware will function to some degree immediately after install. After reinstalling XP, most devices will not function properly, if at all.

For example, when installing XP on my computer, the display shows at a low resolution 4:3 aspect ratio and neither network adapter works, nor does sound, the memory card reader, or most devices I plug into the USB port. If not for the disc that came with the computer that has the drivers, the computer would be basically unusable. With 7, the proper display driver from Intel is installed and the resolution is automatically set to the maximum my screen can do. But, the driver that is installed is old, and has to be replaced to get some functions to work. Matter of fact, everything works pretty well, but to get full functionality and guarantee no BSOD I have to hunt down and install all the appropriate drivers. Any thing I plug into the USB port automatically starts working, unless it is some really old or unusual device.
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14 Aug 2010   #1917
PeteC

Windows 7 Home Premium 64 bit
 
 

I find the driver "issue" to be one of the most complained about "shortcomings" for pretty much every OS. Unfortunately, you can not continually improve and evolve an OS while maintaining 100% compatibility with the past...that would hamstring developments and improvements to far too serious a degree.

As mentioned, hardware manufacturers are ultimately responsible for what their product will work with, and particularly for older gear, there may be insufficient incentive (financially) for them to continue to develop and release new drivers. Further, many hardware manufacturers actually woul prefer folks to eventually move on and purchase newer versions of their hardware anyways, and may deliberately decide to abandon support for newer OS's. For example, HP generally will have drivers for any given printer that carry across at least several versions of windows, but eventually, there will be models that they simply no longer develop drivers for the next generation windows OS. Hard to fault MS for HP's marketing decisions, yes?

At the same time, it is in any OS maker's best interest to attempt to retain compatibility with as wide a hardware set as possible, and to their credit, MS spends much time and energy informing major hardware makers of the parameters of their OS to make hardware compliance with the OS as easy as possible.

Win 7 has a wider database of device driver compatibility than with almost any of their previous versions, but there is no such thing as 100% device compatibility. The PC universe is simply far too varied for that to occur, and even Apple, with a much more single-source approach has never been able to make that claim with subsequent OS releases either.
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14 Aug 2010   #1918
CarlTR6

Windows 7 Ultimate 32 bit
 
 

Well stated, Pete.
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14 Aug 2010   #1919
Layback Bear

Windows 10 Pro. 64/ version 1709
 
 

I think what Petey7 is saying, Windows 7 has been better than previous Windows operating system when it comes to loading drivers to get your computer up and running. At that point it's my job to go to the manufactures web sit and check for updated driver, i.e. Nvidia. If I'm wrong, well just smack me.
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14 Aug 2010   #1920
Petey7

Windows 7 Professional SP1 64-bit
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Layback Bear View Post
I think what Petey7 is saying, Windows 7 has been better than previous Windows operating system when it comes to loading drivers to get your computer up and running. At that point it's my job to go to the manufactures web sit and check for updated driver, i.e. Nvidia. If I'm wrong, well just smack me.
Thats exactly what I'm saying. I'll give another example. When I first load up windows 7 after a clean install, the speakers work. But, after finding the Sigmatel audio drivers, the speakers sound a little better and my mic works too. The driver also gives me a couple of extra features the default Windows drivers don't. If the sound didn't work at all, yeah, I'd feel a more urgent need to find the drivers, but with Windows 7 default drivers, I can listen to music while looking for the newest drivers.

Also, just as a general tip. It is a good idea to backup all driver installers to an external hard drive or a CD. That way, if you need to do a clean install for whatever reason, you already have all the drivers you need.
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