What don't you like about Windows 7?

holo88 said:

greetings from New York

welcome aboard Canuck. btw, were you refering to the 'common tasks' menu?

if thats the one on the right pane that use to have the folder tree but now has 'favourites', 'libraries', and so on... looks very useful, i just need to tweak it to my liking.

Cheers

win7noob said:

Let's get negative.

Ok this is as negative as I can get...I don't like the fact that they didn't give out free copies to ALL the testers of Windows 7. I feel that we've been discriminated.

Other than that....sorry nothing else to report other than October 22nd is a LONG way away.


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My only complaint is the way MS has implemented security.
I am the ADMIN and I expect to be able to open any file or folder.
Can I do that?
Not easily....
Why not?
If anyone reading this has gone through the complicated procedure to give the admin the permission and ownership of folder ( Example: "Documents and Settings" ) they will understand my frustration.

Also windows will not remember their size.

I still take issue with UAC. I find it useless and un-beneficial.

I have yet to hear from anyone who said, "thank God that UAC popped up to ask me if I wanted that program to run....it was a virus"

I have however heard....sarcastically: " Gee thank God that UAC popped up to ask me if I wanted to run a program that I clicked on to open"

I have had a virus or two. And I sure as hell didnt see the UAC pop up to ask me if I wanted xxxx to run. So someone please explain to me the function of the UAC.

I see NO purpose in the UAC popping up to ask me if I want to run a program that I clicked on.

Nosmo said:

My only complaint is the way MS has implemented security.
I am the ADMIN and I expect to be able to open any file or folder.

You are not the Administrator, you are a user in the administrator group, but not the administrator. It is done this way so if an application is had a security hole it will not have full rights to destroy your computer.

If anyone reading this has gone through the complicated procedure to give the admin the permission and ownership of folder ( Example: "Documents and Settings" ) they will understand my frustration.

"Documents and Settings" ??? What?! Document and Settings folder is just there for backwards compatibility. Reading the contents of that folder is denied so when applications scan your system it won't pull duplicate files from it. (It is a junction after all.) The real location is the Users directory.

Learn of the new system before you complain about it...seriously.

ExNavy11 said:

I see NO purpose in the UAC popping up to ask me if I want to run a program that I clicked on.

It allows you not to run as the all powerful Administrator user, so for example. Running IE in its protective sandbox which is only available when UAC is on, If there was an exploit some where in its code base, that exploit would be useless because IE has no super user privileges. But if UAC is off IE would run with the same privileges your user account has, meaning it will have all the power to do anything on your system. This of course goes for every application.

Now per your virus example...if you installed the virus yourself then, no it is not going to stop it because UAC is not an anti-virus. It just allows you to only run as administrator when you really need to, not all the time.

BTW, viruses rarely ever get on a computer that wasn't helped by being installed from the user, usually its riding piggy back on a legitimate application and executed under its context. By then the installing application was given super admin rights allowing the virus to do whatever.

logicearth said:

It allows you not to run as the all powerful Administrator user, so for example. Running IE in its protective sandbox which is only available when UAC is on, If there was an exploit some where in its code base, that exploit would be useless because IE has no super user privileges. But if UAC is off IE would run with the same privileges your user account has, meaning it will have all the power to do anything on your system. This of course goes for every application.

Now per your virus example...if you installed the virus yourself then, no it is not going to stop it because UAC is not an anti-virus. It just allows you to only run as administrator when you really need to, not all the time.

BTW, viruses rarely ever get on a computer that wasn't helped by being installed from the user, usually its riding piggy back on a legitimate application and executed under its context. By then the installing application was given super admin rights allowing the virus to do whatever.

Okay, thanks for soem explanation.

However, if I have the UAC on, and I mark a program under "properties" to run as Admin, I should not have to see the UAC pop up every time I open the program. It is beyond annoying.

ExNavy11 said:

Okay, thanks for soem explanation.

However, if I have the UAC on, and I mark a program under "properties" to run as Admin, I should not have to see the UAC pop up every time I open the program. It is beyond annoying.

But you are not running as Administrator, so UAC has to make go about running that application under the Administrator's context. But in order to make sure that it was not done by a malicious program (i.e. an exploit in some application) it ask if the human user (aka. you) initiated this request.

logicearth said:

But you are not running as Administrator, so UAC has to make go about running that application under the Administrator's context. But in order to make sure that it was not done by a malicious program (i.e. an exploit in some application) it ask if the human user (aka. you) initiated this request.

That is what frustrates me. Why am I not Administrator? And why cant the computer realize that it is ME clicking on the program to open it?

ExNavy11 said:

That is what frustrates me. Why am I not Administrator? And why cant the computer realize that it is ME clicking on the program to open it?

This "feature" guarantees that malware cannot impersonate an officer. It forces a non-fraternization policy. As the CO, you can issue a general order to override, but your enlisted programs and OS will not have the protection afforded by the chain of command. Sailor.