What don't you like about Windows 7?

Barman58 said:

If you look at the range of markets that Microsoft sells operating systems, the enthusiast and professional user which make up the vast majority of members here at the moment are a small group.

I have found Homegroups easy to use and they work fine for the type of user they are aimed at.

One thing that I have not tried yet is to set the network type to Work rather than Home - this will I think remove the homegroup option, but I am not sure if it will allow the use of workgroups or insist on domain membership, may be an option to check out if the homegroup is really that annoying to you :)

That's a great idea! I don't have another Win 7 machine to try that on. I'm networking to 2 other OS's and don't have to put up with it yet, and the person from work with Win 7 on his laptop is gone for the next week. (We use XP on the laptops at work.) If someone could post if that Idea works I would be interested. I suppose I could add Win 7 to my laptop, but at this point I would rather not. I'll probably be upgrading shortly anyway.

Homegroup:
It still should not be manditory. There needs to be a way to turn it off if a customer dosn't want it on. About 2-3 times a month a customer asks me to set up an "Open" network on their wireless router when I set it up (The default is WEP). ....Even in medium size buisnesses that in my opinion should really have the added security. I just explain the risks, and do what they want. There are even good and valid reasons to set up an "Open" network. Some of my customers want to set up a WIFI "Hot Spot" for their patrons, and don't want to have to give out codes, or have their employees become tech assistants so customers can use the internet. (Although thats going to happen with a small group of customers anyway.) The majority of people who bring a laptop already know how to access an open network.
The point is, Users should be able to do what they want with their systems in spite of what someone else thinks, or how small their user group is

Kari said:

cbleman said:

Yes... I do show hidden files. I'm not going to turn it off....

Please do not misunderstand me. What you do with your computer and how you setup your Windows is not my business.

I'm just wondering why?

Kari

No proplem,
I regularly back up certain files that are considered System files. Finding these files is difficult when they are in hidden folders.
In some cases, yes, there are other ways to back them up, but I'm hard headed. DOS prompt days die hard with me. ....so, I just unhide system, and hidden folders. I could set it back again; but what would be the point of that.
I guess it all stems back to the days when I had to much time on my hands, and liked to see what made Windows work. I'm not going to reverse eng. Windows. I have neither the skill nor the knowledge. At this point in my life I also don't have the time. I do however, very infrequently, run into something that sets me off on a research quest, that sends me into the system files.
Like you... Just curious.

logicearth: The bar you mentioned IS clearly visable, but sometimes in haste, it's easy to overlook things. Especialy if you are used to doing things a certain way.

Thank you for your informed reply. I'm sure the information you provided has answered leogets question.

As for comments on what sucks or dosn't, leogets (I get the reference.), was probably frustrated when he/she made the query (As we all get from time to time.).

who needs "Classic View"? In 2 and a half years of Vista I have yet to use it for the first time.

Please.... A little understanding. There is a VERY LARGE group of Windows users that skipped Vista. The debate on why, is long, heated, and at this point meaningless. For those of us coming directly from XP, the learning curve for this new Operating System is staggering! Operations, functions, and programs we rely on every day have been renamed and/or moved/hidden under layers of (for us) confusing and cryptic menus. "Classic View", allows an Icon view, that (in some cases) strips away layers of menus to allow the user to more easily find what we are looking for.

...and just because you don't use a function, program or View, dosn't mean nobody else does.

I have heard over and over again in these forums; "If you don't like it, go back to XP. Vista was soooo despised by so many; we did. ...to the point of reformatting brand new computers with XP, or demanding XP from manufacturers. There are some who would argue that we didn't want to learn the new operating system. This would not entirely be true either.

Back Story:
Vista, when it came out was plagued with many major problems. Driver and program incompatibilities, VPN problems, If you turned off "Big Brother" (UAC), (A feature largely hated, and considered to be a major pain, and in my book still is.), some programs would either not work at all, not update or crash. (Adobe reader for one.) There were a quite a few programs that would not run on it at all (Weather UAC was on or off). Problems using fire wire, Yes there is even some reported truth to the claim that Vista crashed iPod hard drives. I found myself staring into the dreaded BSOD more times than I can count in the space of 30 days.
In some cases hardware would not work on NEW computers shipped with vista! These are only a few of the many problems people ran into. Vista seemed to have more bugs than a New York Dumpster. All of this, combined with claims from IT professionals of Networking problems, it's no wonder that people dumped Vista in droves.

These problems were largely fixable, but with continued problems even after SP2, this gave the Vista haters even more ammunition to publish, that in turn, well... you get the point.

The Main Point:
Young-Gen Windows users and the more intrepid of us Old-Gen users pushed through the problems with Vista, or depending on what you did with Vista, NEVER had a problem. We (The people that skipped Vista) are finding ourselves in the awkward position of either learning a vastly different system or being left far behind. Microsoft, when they developed Win 7 could not ignore Vista. The user base was just too large. So, they built on it instead. Much to the dismay of us "Vista Haters". The learning curve for us is much steeper than for the Vista users, and the frustration factor is tripled.


So when we lament our lost XP functions that we are used to, or whine because we missed something, can't find something, or need help; Please... Have patience. Try not to "Flame" so hard.

Thanks,
Scott

Windows 7 has a relatively easy learning curve compared to some Linux distros Ive had to set up...