What don't you like about Windows 7?

landozelig said:

1. They removed the frickin pinned favorites from windows explorer. I NEED THAT MS!!!!

No they didn't...It is right at the top in the left pane!
C:\Users\[Username]\Links

logicearth said:

landozelig said:

1. They removed the frickin pinned favorites from windows explorer. I NEED THAT MS!!!!

No they didn't...It is right at the top in the left pane!
C:\Users\[Username]\Links

'pinned' being the key word.

I know favorites are still there, but when I scroll down the navigation pane, the favorites scroll up off the screen. Back in Vista they were pinned so they'd always be there in the upper left of windows explorer.

My life involves a whole lot more scrolling now that I moved to Win7.

Pin your favorites in the jump list then?

logicearth said:

Pin your favorites in the jump list then?

No, you're still missing my point. I had to search the net for an image of windows explorer in vista because I no longer have vista installed anywhere. So if you look at the following screen shot ...

http://www.vistaknowledgebase.com/wo...default_01.png

You see the "Favorite Links" in the upper left? Documents, Pictures, Music, etc. Then the folders are under that section. Well that whole section was pinned and didn't move. You could scroll up and down 10,000 folders if you wanted in the folders section, and those Favorite Links stay there. Well in Windows 7, it has the favorites, but they are not pinned and move when you scroll through folders. That is a HUGE disadvantage for how I use my computer as I was used to dragging folders into the favorites link, navigating through a ton of folders below them, but always being able to drag things into folders I had in the favorite links. I hate when Microsoft takes away a function I've been using for 2+ years with no reason or options. If they want to hide it fine, but don't just outright remove it.

You know, I'm new to these forums so my post may not have much credibility, but this is what annoys me about Windows 7, and Microsoft Software in general as of late.

Lack of consistency.

Yet another edition of Windows, with underpinnings that are better than ever, but yet again more changes are introduced so you're forced to re-learn things. For instance, Vista was heavily criticized for its control panel that was a mess, now that everyone more or less adjusted themselves to it, but Win 7 took this mess one step further and turned the mess into a complete cluster-puzzle. Then you have the new superbar, and while its pretty nifty, why not leave the option to enable quicklaunch and classic start menu? Then you had Outlook Express that was supplied with Windows since I believe Win98, and was familiar to everyone who was using it. They replaced it with Windows Mail in Vista, which IMO is a lesser program but whatever, people got used to it... Just to have MS remove it completely from Win7, and force you to download yet another program, Live Mail, which is again completely different. Seriously, why would anyone want to do that, its probably much wiser to get a non MS mail client that has a record for consistency.

And don't even get me started on the ribbonization. Not only the ribbon is completely inefficient, it is also completely inconsistent with the interfaces of all other software, even most of Microsofts software.

Seriously, maybe I'm stubborn, maybe I'm stuck in my own ways, but you know what, I believe the simple concept - if it ain't broke, don't fix it. Don't get me wrong, I don't hate change, when change is for the better. I welcomed the revolutionary change Win95 brought over Win 3.x, I welcomed additional features and functionality future installments of windows brought over Win95, but ever since Vista I feel that its not so much new features but new ways to do the same things as before. And often the new ways are simply a complete and utter clusterpuzzle.

But if I had to choose one thing that I completely hate about Win7, more than anything else, it has got to be the new windows explorer (not IE). I really miss the clean, logical explorer in Windows XP that allowed easy customization.

[QUOTE=och;332072]You know, I'm new to these forums so my post may not have much credibility, but this is what annoys me about Windows 7, and Microsoft Software in general as of late.

Lack of consistency.

Yet another edition of Windows, with underpinnings that are better than ever, but yet again more changes are introduced so you're forced to re-learn things. For instance, Vista was heavily criticized for its control panel that was a mess, now that everyone more or less adjusted themselves to it, but Win 7 took this mess one step further and turned the mess into a complete cluster-puzzle. Then you have the new superbar, and while its pretty nifty, why not leave the option to enable quicklaunch and classic start menu? Then you had Outlook Express that was supplied with Windows since I believe Win98, and was familiar to everyone who was using it. They replaced it with Windows Mail in Vista, which IMO is a lesser program but whatever, people got used to it... Just to have MS remove it completely from Win7, and force you to download yet another program, Live Mail, which is again completely different. Seriously, why would anyone want to do that, its probably much wiser to get a non MS mail client that has a record for consistency.

And don't even get me started on the ribbonization. Not only the ribbon is completely inefficient, it is also completely inconsistent with the interfaces of all other software, even most of Microsofts software.

Seriously, maybe I'm stubborn, maybe I'm stuck in my own ways, but you know what, I believe the simple concept - if it ain't broke, don't fix it. Don't get me wrong, I don't hate change, when change is for the better. I welcomed the revolutionary change Win95 brought over Win 3.x, I welcomed additional features and functionality future installments of windows brought over Win95, but ever since Vista I feel that its not so much new features but new ways to do the same things as before. And often the new ways are simply a complete and utter clusterpuzzle.

But if I had to choose one thing that I completely hate about Win7, more than anything else, it has got to be the new windows explorer (not IE). I really miss the clean, logical explorer in Windows XP that allowed easy customization.[/QUOTE

/I agree with your statements, I too hate the "RIBBONS" and the complete removal of the "CLASSIC" this spells to me total lack of listening to clients/users by Microsoft.

As of the rest why move/change what people are used to )jump??? librarays??? control panel?? Librarys??

I feel that MS has made a major mistake as follows....
WHY change WHAT 60% of the user bases is used to??
REMOVE what 60% of what users are happy with.

We 115 users will be skipping WIN7 we are currently staying with XP and VISTA (we as a company have standardised in the "CLASSIC") menu for help and functions every one is trained with and is comfotrable with.

We will be giving WIN7 a great big miss, and out technician and CEO are currently looking at other options "NON MS"

I agree with your statements, I too hate the "RIBBONS" and the complete removal of the "CLASSIC" this spells to me total lack of listening to clients/users by Microsoft.

As of the rest why move/change what people are used to )jump??? librarays??? control panel?? Librarys??

I feel that MS has made a major mistake as follows....
WHY change WHAT 60% of the user bases is used to??
REMOVE what 60% of what users are happy with.

We 115 users will be skipping Windows 7 we are currently staying with XP and VISTA (we as a company have standardised in the "CLASSIC") menu for help and functions every one is trained with and is comfotrable with.

We will be giving Windows 7 a great big miss, and out technician and CEO are currently looking at other options "NON MS"

@Carl Forster, 115 users is not 60% of Windows users. 115 users is like a grain of dirt in the middle of the ocean.

Carl Forster said:

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We 115 users will be skipping Windows 7 we are currently staying with XP and VISTA (we as a company have standardised in the "CLASSIC") menu for help and functions every one is trained with and is comfotrable with.

We will be giving Windows 7 a great big miss, and out technician and CEO are currently looking at other options "NON MS"

No offence mate, but I cannot help but feel intrigued by your dedication to the cause :)

You're of course entitled to your opinion, and your likes and dislikes, and nobody should try to convince you that you do actually like the ribbon and/or the non-classic start menu, despite yourself. Having said that, you presume quite a bit.

The majority of users like the new look. How do I know that? Because MS spend vast amounts of money and time doing market research. They're profit driven, as befits a publicly traded company which is bound by law to do its utmost to increase shareholder value. If their research had revealed to MS that the majority of users despised the interface updates as much as you do, those changes would never have seen the light of day.

Hence, either the focus groups are misrepresenting user preferences in their reports to MS decision makers, or your finger isn't quite as accurately placed on the pulse of user opinion as you think it is.

If I had to guess one way or the other...