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theog said:

How to use Dell Recovery Partition,make Recovery Disks & how to order Recovery Disks.
Dell - Support

He doesn't want "recovery disks". He wants a clean install of Windows 7. I think it should be illegal to sell a computer with an installed OS and no disks. And I don't mean "recovery disks", which just restore the original crapware.

My sympathy is with the OP, though he should have known better - it's been like this for years. But if he googles around, just a little bit, he'll find out how to download a real Windows 7 disk image that he can burn to DVD...

Dell send out Install Disks.

theog said:

Good Point, seavixen32.

You obviously didn't check what you were buying. Had you done so, I'm sure Dell would have provided you with a Windows DVD if you'd asked..................and I'll guarantee you wouldn't have been charged over the odds for it.

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As theog confirms, Dell would have provided a Windows DVD for the princely sum of £5 ($7.50) - quite a good deal I would have thought.

Interesting.
For the actual more princely sum of ~$100 for an OEM disk you strictly shouldn't use this for your own build. You must buy the retail ~$300 version.
This is now current MS policy. That's probably worth being a bit angry about.

It has always been MS policy for OEM manufacturer's to supply Recovery Disks or Recovery Partitions.

theog said:

It has always been MS policy for OEM manufacturer's to supply Recovery Disks or Recovery Partitions.

These are generally now recovery with bloatware not clean install disks.
The advice given above is that Dell will provide clean install disks. How is this functionally different to using an OEM installation disk provided to system builders who must onsell?

Owner builders would be a moderately sized group who simply don't have the collective bargaining power. Forcing owner builders to buy retail disks must simply be greed. They hardly want dialup "technical" support.

Although Dell will supply clean install discs, they are only good for the computer they come with, so in a sense they are OEM discs, it's just that they don't have the bloatware that a recovery disc does.

The Dell DVD has the factory OEM-SLP activation method Product Key & Dell logo.

seavixen32 said:

Although Dell will supply clean install discs, they are only good for the computer they come with, so in a sense they are OEM discs, it's just that they don't have the bloatware that a recovery disc does.

Yes and the OEM disks I refer to which owner builders are now not supposed to use for their own builds are locked to the PC they are activated on. That is why $100 should be fair payment.

mjf said:

seavixen32 said:

Although Dell will supply clean install discs, they are only good for the computer they come with, so in a sense they are OEM discs, it's just that they don't have the bloatware that a recovery disc does.

Yes and the OEM disks I refer to which owner builders are now not supposed to use for their own builds are locked to the PC they are activated on. That is why $100 should be fair payment.

I don't disagree with your sentiments, but it could be argued that Dell are providing these backup discs as a sweetener to encourage buyers to choose a Dell computer.

Although their volume sales far exceed that of a one-man system builder, it'll be interesting to see what sort of licensing arrangements they've got with Microsoft.

Pretty generous I would have thought on the face of it.