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Windows 7: Windows 7 build number "changed"

02 Aug 2009   #111
knuckles84

Windows 7 / Linux Mint
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by HamidFULL View Post
Finally whats the fact!?

1. 16385 is a Beta release
2. RTM is 16385 and we could update our OS via windowsupdate to 16399
3. RTM and final release is 16399

PS : may we get another build like 16400 soon?!
16385 is RTM an do not change anymore!!!! Windows 7 has not stopped to be maintained, so MS will make updates and fixes, to mark them they must change something in the version number!. October 22 you got 16385, but with the updtes perhaps included (and the updates not yet leaked).
Every windows has those updates, but why are those not in Windows Updates?? That has a simple reason! 16385 is only leaked and not official released by MS, so the Updtes are the same case they are only leaked. If MS will add they in the Windows Update, they will leak themself the Updates.

An other faq is that if an Fix for the cracks is released befor the final version is out, the Hackers have more time to find other Solutions to crack Windows 7.


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02 Aug 2009   #112
harpua

Windows 7 Ultimate x64 (Retail)
 
 

I believe the simple reason these updates are not yet appearing on Windows Update is because these are presently classified as "Hot Fixes" which means they (MS) haven't finished fully testing them yet. When they have, they will likely appear on WU assuming they don't discover any issues with the Hot Fixes.
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02 Aug 2009   #113
HamidFULL

Windows Vista Ultimate x64 SP1 --> SP2 soon! | XP Pro x86 SP3
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by knuckles84 View Post
16385 is RTM an do not change anymore!!!! Windows 7 has not stopped to be maintained, so MS will make updates and fixes, to mark them they must change something in the version number!. October 22 you got 16385, but with the updtes perhaps included (and the updates not yet leaked).
Every windows has those updates, but why are those not in Windows Updates?? That has a simple reason! 16385 is only leaked and not official released by MS, so the Updtes are the same case they are only leaked. If MS will add they in the Windows Update, they will leak themself the Updates.

An other faq is that if an Fix for the cracks is released befor the final version is out, the Hackers have more time to find other Solutions to crack Windows 7.
Thanks for explains!
just two notes on your post + some new questions :
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...to mark them they must change something in the version number!...
which type of updates will affect on windows version? well, I installed many Patches on my XP but just a few of them changed the build number like "XP roll update"

and MS confirmed that 16385 is RTM?
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by harpua View Post
I believe the simple reason these updates are not yet appearing on Windows Update is because these are presently classified as "Hot Fixes" which means they (MS) haven't finished fully testing them yet. When they have, they will likely appear on WU assuming they don't discover any issues with the Hot Fixes.
of course may it is ...

PS : MSDN release could be 16399 or higher?!
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02 Aug 2009   #114
HamidFULL

Windows Vista Ultimate x64 SP1 --> SP2 soon! | XP Pro x86 SP3
 
 

Got a shock!!!

I found this picture on the web [seems picture is provided by MSDN users that have build 16399 ISO]

What!! when you installed OS from the ISO there would be some installed updates as the control panel report!! its ok?! or just a stupid hacker integrated patches into 16385 to make another ISO?!


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02 Aug 2009   #115
knuckles84

Windows 7 / Linux Mint
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by HamidFULL View Post
which type of updates will affect on windows version? well, I installed many Patches on my XP but just a few of them changed the build number like "XP roll update"
I'm sure that the Patches that you have installed on XP have change some of the version numbers, but perhaps not they, they you controll normaly. Or do you controle every dll exe..... after and Update??
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02 Aug 2009   #116
Dinesh

Windows® 8 Pro (64-bit)
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by HamidFULL View Post
Got a shock!!!

I found this picture on the web [seems picture is provided by MSDN users that have build 16399 ISO]

What!! when you installed OS from the ISO there would be some installed updates as the control panel report!! its ok?! or just a stupid hacker integrated patches into 16385 to make another ISO?!
No need to panic mate. That's absolutely fine.
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02 Aug 2009   #117
johnwillyums

Windows 7 Home Premium 64 bit
 
 

Hi all. Installed these updates yesterday and I just ran my WEI thing and I've gained a point on processor and memory scores.
Subjectively feels "snappier" too.

Best wishes, John
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02 Aug 2009   #118
xendrome

Windows 7 RTM
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by HamidFULL View Post
Finally whats the fact!?

1. 16385 is a Beta release
2. RTM is 16385 and we could update our OS via windowsupdate to 16399
3. RTM and final release is 16399

PS : may we get another build like 16400 soon?!
This is the type of FUD that doesn't need to be continually posted here...

I can't understand how some of you still think 16385 isn't RTM. Those updates are not meant for your systems, even if they are, not yet. The previous poster got a BSOD on running WEI. I bet he hasn't had a BSOD yet, now thanks to these beta/untested/unsupported updates, he gets one.

So please, stop worrying about these updates, 16385 will be the build posted on Technet/MSDN. If a NEW build is compiled, it has to be re-voted on, as before with the RC to RTM builds. This IS NOT GOING TO HAPPEN, OEM's already have the code, it's DONE, DONE, DONE, DONE....... DONE... So please, stop. kthx.
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02 Aug 2009   #119
DataMan47

Windows 7 Pro (MSDN)
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by HamidFULL View Post
PS : MSDN release could be 16399 or higher?!
No.

1) Because 16385 is RTM.

2) Because 16399 comes from a test update (none of the "real" updates are 16399; they are 16401, etc., and most importantly, none of the "real" updates will update the kernel EXE, so your system will still report 16385!)

You will notice that every 16399 file is from a low-# KB (the test updates that are not "real") (and that every low-# KB is 16399). This means that the test updates were all made from the same buildset (makes sense) and that every 16399 file is from a test update, not a real update!
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02 Aug 2009   #120
swarfega

Windows 7 Professional 64-bit
 
 

@xendrome: well said tbh.
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