one machine attaches quickly to network, the other does not

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  1. Posts : 1,363
    Win7 pro x64
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    one machine attaches quickly to network, the other does not


    I added a second machine to my home network, and do not know why they behave differently at boot up.

    On machine A, after it gets to the desktop, the network icon show an internet connection in about one second. On machine B, after it gets to the desktop, the network icon has the yellow exclamation mark on it for about 10 seconds before it finally goes away and connects to the internet (startup folder is empty). They are both cable connected to the same DSL modem/router

    Both machines are Windows 7 x64 ultimate, but B is a new build and I'm trying to get all the settings on B to be as fast as machine A, but am not sure what to try here.
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  2. Posts : 13,576
    Windows 10 Pro x64
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    An exclamation mark is telling me something could be wrong with the card even though 10 seconds is fast. Did you do any troubleshooting in the properties of the network connection in device manager ? Give it a try, post back.

    Do you leave your routers & switches on 24/7 or do you flip them on like I do only when you use your pcs ?
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  3. Posts : 1,363
    Win7 pro x64
    Thread Starter
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    both machines have the same Realtek PCIe GBE Family Controller and both are running the same Realtek v7.48 driver. Their tcip setting are identical, and so are the settings within device manger > network adapter > properties. I just uninstalled and re-installed the driver to make sure that was not the issue.

    This may have something to do with the 2WIRE router from at&t uverse, but its the only DSL router I have. Note that I am only talking about the internet connection here. The local network connection occurs instantly on both machines at boot up, but the internet connection is delayed on machine B. Its more like 20 seconds, than 10.

    I almost never power down the router since it takes a good 5-10 minutes to reinitialize. I'll try it now though......
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  4. Posts : 4,049
    W7 Ultimate SP1, LM19.2 MATE, W10 Home 1703, W10 Pro 1703 VM, #All 64 bit
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    Identical?


    johnhoh said:
    Their tcip setting are identical, and so are the settings within device manger > network adapter > properties. I just uninstalled and re-installed the driver to make sure that was not the issue.
    When you say identical, I hope you don't mean that they both have the same IP address.

    What happens if you execute the "arp -a -v" command in the "Command Prompt"?
    one machine attaches quickly to network, the other does not-arp.png one machine attaches quickly to network, the other does not-arp2.png
    Last edited by lehnerus2000; 09 Jan 2012 at 21:38. Reason: Picture Added
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  5. Posts : 13,576
    Windows 10 Pro x64
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    They can`t be identical, well they could but windows would tell you you have an ip address conflict and it wouldn`t get out til you changed it.

    Make sure both your pcs are renewing their ip address everyday. Dynamic
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  6. Posts : 1,363
    Win7 pro x64
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    AddRAM said:
    They can`t be identical, well they could but windows would tell you you have an ip address conflict and it wouldn`t get out til you changed it.

    Make sure both your pcs are renewing their ip address everyday. Dynamic
    yes they are different. Not to nitpick, but the settings are indeed identical in device manager though, because the ip address is not shown in device manager. (though resource details such as i/o range and memory range are different of course)
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  7. Posts : 4,049
    W7 Ultimate SP1, LM19.2 MATE, W10 Home 1703, W10 Pro 1703 VM, #All 64 bit
       #7

    Yes and No


    AddRAM said:
    They can`t be identical, well they could but windows would tell you you have an ip address conflict and it wouldn`t get out til you changed it.
    Only if both machines are on, when you try to set it.

    Does it make a difference, which order you attempt to connect to the Internet?
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  8. Posts : 1,363
    Win7 pro x64
    Thread Starter
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    here are the arp -a -v results for each machine

    192.168.1.64 is the ip address of my A machine. No idea what 192.168.1.69 is on machine A (something to do with homegroup?). Am curious as to what is 224.0.0.22 on machine B
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  9. Posts : 13,576
    Windows 10 Pro x64
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    lehnerus2000 said:
    AddRAM said:
    They can`t be identical, well they could but windows would tell you you have an ip address conflict and it wouldn`t get out til you changed it.
    Only if both machines are on, when you try to set it.
    Well that`s what this is all about, yes ?

    You have a .64 and .69 there so that`s right. Stupid ? but is all the cabling on pc B in good shape ?
    Last edited by AddRAM; 09 Jan 2012 at 21:51. Reason: More info
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    W7 Ultimate SP1, LM19.2 MATE, W10 Home 1703, W10 Pro 1703 VM, #All 64 bit
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    AddRAM said:
    Well that`s what this is all about, yes ?
    Both machines don't have to be on when the setup is done (they could have been setup individually).
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