Quasi-Administrator account versus a true Adminstrator Account?

Kevin Ismail said:

Hi.
Just want to share. There was one time in the past while running Win 7. An installing program required me to run as administrator, though I run it in elevated mode it persistently refused to go further. Did it few more times, it just didn't go.
As to entertain my curiosity, I desperately enabled the built in administrator through computer management, created password, and log on to it. What amazed me was that the program were able to install and work..!
Until now I just keep it to myself as a unique solution cause when I discussed it with friends, they just call it as an odd trick. (I totally couldn't recall it was a program or an update).

Kevin.

Hello and thanks Kevin,
I know that there is exceptions to the rule.. But luckily I have not run into this difficulty yet, and I already can and have done enough damage in my current setup. Until I can take the time to understand the exact differences and reason, I am afraid.
For instance, I don't know what the Homegroup is for, and have never used it. Apparently I don't need to {)!
Glenn

glennc said:

Where I get lost is the changing the properties to run as administrator. This would allow the other user account to have too much privilege in my limited understanding.

When you use the Advanced button on the shortcut Properties sheet and put a check next to "Run as administrator", all that does is eliminate the need to right-click the shortcut and click on "Run as administrator" each and every time you want to run the program. When you next left-click on the shortcut, you will still get the UAC popup, and still have to input the correct password for the Administrators Group account. If the other user account holder doesn't know and enter the password, the program won't run.

glennc said:

What I find confusing is when I install a program in the admin account as opposed to my user account. It seems in the first case, if I run the program in the user account it pops up asking for my admin password. If I do it in the user account it doesn't, when run.

That is not typical behavior. For example, I installed MS Office logged onto my Admin account so that it would be available for all users. When I click on an Office app shortcut in my Standard User account, it just runs - there is no UAC intervention. I have a number of programs installed in the same fashion, and they all work in the same way.

I do have a couple of programs that require Administrators Group privileges in order to run, and those do give me the UAC popup.

glennc said:

...I would like to get it in the All Programs menu in the Start Up tab. Again, haven't a clue.
To many pots on the stove. Thanks for your help!!
Glenn

Logon your Administrators Group account. Open Windows Explorer and navigate to that Program's folder. Right-click the executable and select "Create shortcut", then left-click an empty spot in the folder and select "Paste".

Next, right-click the shortcut you just created and drag it to the Start Orb and you should be able to pin it to the Start Menu. From there, it should be available to all users.

I am beginning to understand! Thanks for your patience and helpful explanations!

When you use the Advanced button on the shortcut Properties sheet and put a check next to "Run as administrator", all that does is eliminate the need to right-click the shortcut and click on "Run as administrator" each and every time you want to run the program. When you next left-click on the shortcut, you will still get the UAC popup, and still have to input the correct password for the Administrators Group account. If the other user account holder doesn't know and enter the password, the program won't run.

I get the above, finally it makes sense. Moon must be in the right phase!

That is not typical behavior. For example, I installed MS Office logged onto my Admin account so that it would be available for all users. When I click on an Office app shortcut in my Standard User account, it just runs - there is no UAC intervention. I have a number of programs installed in the same fashion, and they all work in the same way.

I do have a couple of programs that require Administrators Group privileges in order to run, and those do give me the UAC popup.

I believe I get the concept of this, not comfortable, but the idea. Will have to remember to try it, depending on who I want to use the new program and the privileges I wish to assign!

Lastly as you posted I, I received instructions in a post just for that topic!

Thank you kind Sir! You have been a big help!
Cheers
Glenn