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Windows 7: Windows 7 getting fat

15 Sep 2009   #31
zigzag3143

Win 8 Release candidate 8400
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Dinesh View Post
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by GordonNT View Post
Hi Adeon,

mine is as fat aus your system. If you have a 64bit installation, a complete 32bit system is installed, too. Windows needs all these files to run properly (e.g. 32Bit applications, DirectX 9 and 11 together, ...)

I advice you not to touch any system files or folders (excluding temp).
I think we have to accept that this Windows eats up our computers.
If you want a light-weight performance-system coose Win XP :-)

Greeting
Would you mind giving 40-50 GB to Windows if you have a 320 or 500 GB HDD?
If you are so much conscious about the size, use Windows 98, it will be happy in a 10 GB partition also.
Dinesh you are right as always. In any of my machines but the laptop I will gladly give up whatever space is required as long as it doesn't slow the computer. I have2.5 TB of local space and more if I need it. Media folder .75Tb. app storage 500Gigs, laptop 80gig drive. I have to be more stingy on this laptop.

I have already palyed with the winsxs folder deleted the backup safely, tried and failed to move it off to a different drive, and yes killed OS'es several times

K


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15 Sep 2009   #32
pparks1

Windows 7 Ultimate x64
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by whs View Post
This is good advice for removing the shadows. Problem is, they come back and after a few days you are back to square one. If you really want to suppress the writing of shadows, you have to rezise the shadowstorage with the VSSAMIN RESIZE command. Note that you have to allocate at least 300MBs though.
You no longer have to use the command line utility in 7. It's built into the GUI now.
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15 Sep 2009   #33
pparks1

Windows 7 Ultimate x64
 
 

As a side note, out of curiosity based on these hard links I set up a Windows 7 RTM virtual machine and gave that virtual machine a 12GB hard drive. I installed just Win7 RTM, logged in, loaded TreeSizeFree and analyzed what my disk space looked like.

Windows explorer shows 7.14GB used, 4.75GB free and 11.8GB in total.

But a quick scan of my hard drive with TreeSizePro shows that my drive has used 9,788.7MB of space in the following areas;
--7,502.3MB Windows (of which WinSXS folder is 3,989.0MB)
--1,791.7MB [Files] Hiberyfil.sys and pagefile
--395.3MB Program Files
--90.2MB Users
--9.2MB Program Data.

So, the tools like Windows Explorer and TreeSizeFree are reporting nearly 10GB of stuff on my hard drive...however the free space showing up on my hard drive under the Properties of the C drive is actually 4.75. If I truly had 10GB of stuff on the machine, I would only have 2GB of free space...rather than 4.75GB. Therefore, it's not possible for my C:\windows folder to actually be 7,502.3MB...it must be smaller. (basic math says around 5.3GB)


Point of my post: You cannot effectively judge/clean-up your C:\windows directory using these tools as it's inaccurate regarding the amount of space actually being consumed. It's actually possible that you could have a 30GB hard drive, and a 40GB Windows directory on that drive.

Edit: I took my VM and shut off system restore, hibernation and moved the page file to another drive. Look at the screenshot below......on the left you can see that I'm only using up 5.4GB of disk space, but yet on the right it says my C:\Windows folder is 7.22GB. Proof that Windows doesn't use at much space as it appears that it does.

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15 Sep 2009   #34
whs
Microsoft MVP

Vista, Windows7, Mint Mate, Zorin, Windows 8
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by pparks1 View Post
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by whs View Post
This is good advice for removing the shadows. Problem is, they come back and after a few days you are back to square one. If you really want to suppress the writing of shadows, you have to rezise the shadowstorage with the VSSAMIN RESIZE command. Note that you have to allocate at least 300MBs though.
You no longer have to use the command line utility in 7. It's built into the GUI now.

Aha, thanks for the hint. Have not yet found it but will scout around. Although to tell you the truth, I like cmd.
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15 Sep 2009   #35
whs
Microsoft MVP

Vista, Windows7, Mint Mate, Zorin, Windows 8
 
 

pparks1, did you ever run WinDirStat to see what IT says?
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15 Sep 2009   #36
logicearth

Windows 10 Pro (x64)
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by pparks1 View Post
...So, the tools like Windows Explorer and TreeSizeFree are reporting nearly 10GB of stuff on my hard drive...however the free space showing up on my hard drive under the Properties of the C drive is actually 4.75. If I truly had 10GB of stuff on the machine, I would only have 2GB of free space...rather than 4.75GB. Therefore, it's not possible for my C:\windows folder to actually be 7,502.3MB...it must be smaller. (basic math says around 5.3GB)...
To add to this, Drive Properties shows the correct amount because it doesn't go though the File System Enumeration functions. Instead it talks to services under the File System functions, like the MFT for example.
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15 Sep 2009   #37
Dinesh

Windows® 8 Pro (64-bit)
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by zigzag3143 View Post
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Dinesh View Post
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by GordonNT View Post
Hi Adeon,

mine is as fat aus your system. If you have a 64bit installation, a complete 32bit system is installed, too. Windows needs all these files to run properly (e.g. 32Bit applications, DirectX 9 and 11 together, ...)

I advice you not to touch any system files or folders (excluding temp).
I think we have to accept that this Windows eats up our computers.
If you want a light-weight performance-system coose Win XP :-)

Greeting
Would you mind giving 40-50 GB to Windows if you have a 320 or 500 GB HDD?
If you are so much conscious about the size, use Windows 98, it will be happy in a 10 GB partition also.
Dinesh you are right as always. In any of my machines but the laptop I will gladly give up whatever space is required as long as it doesn't slow the computer. I have2.5 TB of local space and more if I need it. Media folder .75Tb. app storage 500Gigs, laptop 80gig drive. I have to be more stingy on this laptop.

I have already palyed with the winsxs folder deleted the backup safely, tried and failed to move it off to a different drive, and yes killed OS'es several times

K
Lol thanks Ken. This month i m planning to upgrage my hdd frm 160gb to 320 gb and RAM from 2gb to 4 gb.
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