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Windows 7: Take Ownership tweak removes Run as Admin

18 Sep 2009   #1
tylor

7 RTM 64 bit
 
 
Take Ownership tweak removes Run as Admin

Hi Guys,

I am about to reformat my system and reinstall all programs and settings etc.. One question I have is around the registry tweak to add a "Take Ownership" icon to the right click contect menu.

I generally install this tweak as it's extremely useful and saves messing around with calcs commands. It seems however that once this is done in Windows 7 RTM 64 it replaces the icon to run as administrator (which is also extremely useful).

Is there a way to keep both icons/features in the context menu?

Thanks in advance
Tylor



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18 Sep 2009   #2
jfar

Vista Ult64, Win7600
 
 

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18 Sep 2009   #3
tylor

7 RTM 64 bit
 
 

Apologies if I have missed something here but the link you posted is simply what I already use and am referring to.

When I implement the tweak it does add the take ownership to the context menu which is great, the downside is that it overwrites the 'run as admin' context menu. My question was asking if it is possible to have both context menu's on the right click option.
Kind Regards
Tylor
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18 Sep 2009   #4
DeaconFrost

Windows 7 Ultimate x64 SP1
 
 

Correct me if I'm wrong, but why would you need a tweak to take ownership of files on your own system? The only time taking ownership should be an issue, is if you pulled a drive from another system and attached it, and needed to pull files out of some of the previous system's sys volume.

Once you get all files transferred to your system, you shouldn't ever need to take ownership of them again. Ownership is a permissions issue, that can be resolved once, and it sticks.
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18 Sep 2009   #5
tylor

7 RTM 64 bit
 
 

There are several times you may wish to take ownership of protected files.

Say I want to add a custom theme to my Media Centre backdrop, if I try and edit a file like ehres.dll Windows will throw an error advising that I do not have the sufficient rights to do this.
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18 Sep 2009   #6
DeaconFrost

Windows 7 Ultimate x64 SP1
 
 

Wouldn't that be more related to UAC, and not taking ownership? I'd be willing to bet, as a test, if you disabled/lowered UAC, you wouldn't see those prompts. Taking ownership of a file/directory is making a change to the actual permissions...a permanent change, not a temporary one that UAC handles.
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18 Sep 2009   #7
tylor

7 RTM 64 bit
 
 

I'm afraid Not, I don't use UAC at all.

I know all about changing file properties and access rights per user group. Unfortunately there are still certain files that you need to take ownership of which is why the tweak was developed to make the process easier.

If you try and alter the file permissions for ehres.dll for example via the standard method by right clicking and selecting properties - Security - Permissions, you will just get an error message.
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18 Sep 2009   #8
DeaconFrost

Windows 7 Ultimate x64 SP1
 
 

Well, I'll be damned. I did get the error message. I guess it's a good thing I don't go mucking with system files.

I'm still feeling the pain from the whole "taking ownership" fiasco that's been going on since Vista's release, where people would actually store their data on the system volume, and then move it to another computer, encountering permissions issues because they didn't set the new system up with the same username and password. When I see "taking ownership", and I'm done convulsing, I assume it has to do with just that...taking ownership in the permissions. I've never seen it called taking ownership for something temporary like this. Ah well, good to know, should I decide to edit any system files.
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18 Sep 2009   #9
Snufffed

 

I use "Take Ownership" via right click and also "Run as Admin" via Right click.

It depends on the type of file which shows... are you sure you lost "Run as Admin"?

find - locate an .exe file then right click..."Run as Admin" should be there.
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18 Sep 2009   #10
Brink

64-bit Windows 10 Pro
 
 

Tylor,

As Snuffy posted, the Take Ownership shortcut will be added to the context menu for all folders and files in Vista. The application files, (ex: EXE, CMD, MSI), will still have Run as administrator in addition to Take Ownership when you right click on them. Non application files (ex: txt, jpg) never had Run as administrator in their context menu.

Hope this helps,
Shawn
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