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Windows 7: I'm not very happy with Windows 7 so far

10 Oct 2009   #11
kegobeer

Windows 7 Ultimate x64 SP1
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Jack1337 View Post
PS CS3 still lags
tbh I'm pretty much ready on going back to XP, my only really big concern now is that I don't have the drivers disc for my mobo and last time I checked there were a bunch of different revisions of the thing, 1.0, 1.1 and A3 or something, CPU-Z says in Windows 7 it's A3, should I go with that? You guys said 7 might not have installed the right drivers, but if it didn't would my USB functions be messed up? Cause everything USB is nice and fast, at least as far as transfers to flash drivers and my external HDD go.
The revision should be printed on the motherboard. Personally, I always verify what's on the motherboard intead of relying on a utility to tell me what it is supposed to be.


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10 Oct 2009   #12
MacGyvr

Windows 7 Ultimate RTM (Technet)
 
 

I guess I don't understand why you're "sort of" trying 7 and criticizing it so much. The TabletPC stuff in 7 is absolutely amazing. Handwriting recognition that is top notch, right out of the box, etc. If you don't need 7 and don't like it, go back to XP, problem solved.

If you were smart, you imaged your drive with the XP installation on it before you blew it away. Restore it and you're back in business.
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10 Oct 2009   #13
Jack1337

Windows 7 Ultimate x64
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by MacGyvr View Post
I guess I don't understand why you're "sort of" trying 7 and criticizing it so much. The TabletPC stuff in 7 is absolutely amazing. Handwriting recognition that is top notch, right out of the box, etc. If you don't need 7 and don't like it, go back to XP, problem solved.

If you were smart, you imaged your drive with the XP installation on it before you blew it away. Restore it and you're back in business.
yeah I was too lazy to do that XD
as for the tablet PC stuff being amazing, it may be amazing, but it should know its place and not butt in when I don't need it.

I hate it when programs assume they're supposed to run on their own and interfere with my work. I don't like all these new fancy features these days, they supposedly make things easier, but IMO they just make everything more complex and frustrating to use because getting rid of them is annoying as hell sometimes.

And I can't open my computer for reasons I'm too lazy to explain now, I'm not good at that stuff and I'll just mess it all up, yes just unscrewing the case can be fatal in my case I'm dumb when it comes to those thngs lol
Edit: Wait, I missed that post where the guy told me to install the 32bit version instead.
People were trying real hard to convince me that 64 bit is the way to go even though I've been steering clear of 64bit OS's for years now. I clearly stated I have only 2GB RAM yet people would still insist I get 64bit.

Well I'm not sure if I want more Windows 7 or not at this point, maybe I'll wait until I get a new killer gaming computer in a couple months and install 7 on that, but right now I'm very close to going back to XP.

First I have to make sure nothing goes wrong with that too though because I'm not a big fan of messing with this stuff, it's such a waste of time for me
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10 Oct 2009   #14
Jack1337

Windows 7 Ultimate x64
 
 

Update: The Photoshop CS3 lag input couldn't be solved, but I tried installing CS4 from the whole Adobe Suit thing and that setup worked fine, as far as I can tell there's no input lag whatsoever in CS4 so it was definitely not my mobo or drivers.
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10 Oct 2009   #15
jimbo45

Linux CENTOS 7 / various Windows OS'es and servers
 
 

Hi all

That Mobo should run W7 (either x-86 / X-64) without a problem.

Photoshop CS4 (64 bit) just flies on W7 x-64. I use it daily without a problem.

CS3 should also be fine -- upgraded a long while ago so I can't remember too much about CS3.

W7 installs on 5 / 6 / 7 year old (and older I'm told) computers without any problem so long as you have 512KB ram (seems to be the cut off point). I'm running one old 2004 bought Sony Vaio Pentium IV laptop just fine with W7 (and CS4). This machine would hardly load VISTA but gave no probs whatsoever with W7.

A 2GB machine will run just fine. (even W7 x-64 will work on your machine if the cpu supports 64 bit mode.)

The User Interface is different from XP and *could* take a while to get used to but it won't take long.

In any case if you had such a great XP system why didn't you back it up first with something like Acronis True Image so you could restore it again if you didn't like W7.

Vmware also has absolutely NO problems installing on W7 - I use it a LOT and have even from the W7 BETA.

You've done something seriously wrong if you've got that many probs with W7.

If you really don't like it don't use it but I suspect you've done something hideously wrong if you can't install Photoshop and Vmware on W7.

Note with vmware you can only run 64 bit Guest VM's if you've enabled the Virtualisation in the BIOS. (Both AMD and Intel CPU's can turn this feature on - not sure what the AMD name is).

Also I suggest next time ALWAYS backup your system -- it only takes around 10 - 15 mins on decent gear and will save you no end of grief and time later on.

Cheers
jimbo
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10 Oct 2009   #16
Jack1337

Windows 7 Ultimate x64
 
 

^ The saddest part is, I always backup my Wii's NAND before getting so much as a new WiiWare game yet I didn't backup my entire friggin computer.

And the version of Photoshop CS4 that comes with the entire Adobe Suit installs perfectly fine, just the stand alone one wouldn't.
As for PS3 CS3, I really don't know why it did that, it worked perfectly aside from the tablet issue.

Also in VMWare I have internet problems and my XP VMWare just isn't as fluid as it was in XP 2 but other than that as I said it installed fine and it runs fine, but I really hate the 6.x VMWare series and would prefer 5.5.x
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10 Oct 2009   #17
jimbo45

Linux CENTOS 7 / various Windows OS'es and servers
 
 

Here again what's the difference between vmware workstation 5.5.x and 6.x.x

Menus etc are IDENTICAL -- can't see what's to hate about 6.x.x. Also both NAT and Bridged WORK in the latest version of vmware workstation.

Now running Virtual PC in XP mode I might agree with you here as performance is sluggish but your other concerns just don't reflect the experience others have had with W7.

here's the vmware menu for vmware workstation 6.5.3 build 18504 for one of my XP VM's. -- can't see ANY difference to previous releases in the menu. Works EXACTLY as before.

(This is a BIG one as its running a stand alone version of a large SAP (ERP) Test system which uses a very big oracle database - hence the 85GB virtual disk space). Performance is fine and around 95% - 98% Native.

The powered on vm behaves just like it should do -- can't see any difference from vmware 5.5.x

cheers
jimbo


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10 Oct 2009   #18
Jack1337

Windows 7 Ultimate x64
 
 

That's nice it works good for you, but on my computer and between XP 32bit with 5.5.x and Windows 7 x64 and VMWare 6.5.something there's a difference.

In XP I couldn't tell the difference whether I was running on the guest or host sometimes, it was that smooth, I used the guest to download torrents and everything in order to keep my host OS nice and clean for gaming and work.

Now, the same virtual machine isn't as smooth, you can tell it's running in a virtual environment and it's just no good.
I even gave it a higher priority when grabbed and increased the Memory size from the 512MB it had for years to 1GB thinking that would improve performance but it didn't.

It's painfully obvious that either Windows 7 is to blame for this or the new VMWare build.
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10 Oct 2009   #19
kegobeer

Windows 7 Ultimate x64 SP1
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Jack1337 View Post
That's nice it works good for you, but on my computer and between XP 32bit with 5.5.x and Windows 7 x64 and VMWare 6.5.something there's a difference.

In XP I couldn't tell the difference whether I was running on the guest or host sometimes, it was that smooth, I used the guest to download torrents and everything in order to keep my host OS nice and clean for gaming and work.

Now, the same virtual machine isn't as smooth, you can tell it's running in a virtual environment and it's just no good.
I even gave it a higher priority when grabbed and increased the Memory size from the 512MB it had for years to 1GB thinking that would improve performance but it didn't.

It's painfully obvious that either Windows 7 is to blame for this or the new VMWare build.
I'd agree that Windows 7 x64 is the problem, if you had tried Vista x64 and suffered the same problems. It might just be an issue with your motherboard not playing nice with any 64 bit architecture. Try an x86 version of Windows 7 and see if you have the same problems.
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10 Oct 2009   #20
Jack1337

Windows 7 Ultimate x64
 
 

Do I have to reformat again to switch to 32bit?
I'll do it no problem I just wanna know if there's a way to switch to it on the fly

I don't have anything in my C parition so it won't be a big deal.
Anything important I should know before I do this?

TBH guys now that my tablet works fine I'm more satisfied with Windows 7, it also works nice and fast, but that was there with XP too.
Is 32bit going to be slower?
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