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Windows 7: Does upgrade require proof of prior version?

24 Oct 2009   #31
zrtom

W8 Pro, W7 Ultimate, XP Pro x64, Vista x64, Ubuntu
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by oldspook View Post
It is not true that "If you have purchased an 'Upgrade' you MUST run setup from within Vista or XP". I purchesed an Upgrade disk and did a clean install on an unformated partition by booting from the upgrade disk. I did have XP installed on another partition so w7 upgrade must have detected it. It created a multiboot system with a boot menu to choose the OS from.

I do have a question though - What if a person did a custom install from within XP and wipped out XP - then later had a HDD crash and had to do a reinstall? There would be no XP on the computer to verify.
MS told me you'd have to reinstall the prior OS. Here's what I posted on that as well as a copy of their email to me.
STILL confused about "Upgrade" installation process.

However, clean installs have been activated successfully (activated but not yet validated since Windows Activation Technologies (formerly WGA) is not up and running completely). Either MS misinformed me or they will be making changes to their activation servers to close the loophole of upgrade key activation on clean full installs.

I'm hoping MS misinformed me.


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25 Oct 2009   #32
oldspook

Windows 7 Ultimate
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by zrtom View Post
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by oldspook View Post
It is not true that "If you have purchased an 'Upgrade' you MUST run setup from within Vista or XP". I purchesed an Upgrade disk and did a clean install on an unformated partition by booting from the upgrade disk. I did have XP installed on another partition so w7 upgrade must have detected it. It created a multiboot system with a boot menu to choose the OS from.

I do have a question though - What if a person did a custom install from within XP and wipped out XP - then later had a HDD crash and had to do a reinstall? There would be no XP on the computer to verify.
MS told me you'd have to reinstall the prior OS. Here's what I posted on that as well as a copy of their email to me.
STILL confused about "Upgrade" installation process.

However, clean installs have been activated successfully (activated but not yet validated since Windows Activation Technologies (formerly WGA) is not up and running completely). Either MS misinformed me or they will be making changes to their activation servers to close the loophole of upgrade key activation on clean full installs.

I'm hoping MS misinformed me.
It looks like I will always keep both XP and 7 on my computer anyway. Since both OS are now on the same drive, different partitions, a HDD crash would wipe out both of them. I have made an image of that HDD with both OS. It would be a simple matter to restore it to a new HDD.
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25 Oct 2009   #33
Sonixmon

Windows 7 Pro
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by zrtom View Post
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by oldspook View Post
It is not true that "If you have purchased an 'Upgrade' you MUST run setup from within Vista or XP". I purchesed an Upgrade disk and did a clean install on an unformated partition by booting from the upgrade disk. I did have XP installed on another partition so w7 upgrade must have detected it. It created a multiboot system with a boot menu to choose the OS from.

I do have a question though - What if a person did a custom install from within XP and wipped out XP - then later had a HDD crash and had to do a reinstall? There would be no XP on the computer to verify.
MS told me you'd have to reinstall the prior OS. Here's what I posted on that as well as a copy of their email to me.
STILL confused about "Upgrade" installation process.

However, clean installs have been activated successfully (activated but not yet validated since Windows Activation Technologies (formerly WGA) is not up and running completely). Either MS misinformed me or they will be making changes to their activation servers to close the loophole of upgrade key activation on clean full installs.

I'm hoping MS misinformed me.
I hope they misinformed you too, because think of the consequences for their customers! In my situation that would be awful, I installed 3 pre-ordered copies this weekend. I installed my wifes laptop (in true upgrade fassion, second I installed my Gaming rig, dual boot (XP, Win7 RC) booted from CD installed and activated without a hitch (I assumed it may have seen the XP os?), Three, last night (mainly because I was so curious) I went ahead and put my other HD in my laptop (removing the XP os), booted to windows 7 RC, of course couldnt do the upgrade install so I ran the custom install. Put in the key when asked and no issues at all.

Also another thought, if infact the cd key determines if it will let you do a new install, why would they wait until it has renamed your old os or formated the partition to then tell you it doesnt qualify for a clean install? If I remember right in the past my installation disc asked me for an old cd or the windows dir before it would proceed!

If MS comes back and deactivates 2 of my three computers after I have installed all my programs and files, they can have their OS' back and will be getting a BBB complaint LOL.
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26 Oct 2009   #34
riojanitoperez

windows 7 ULTIMATE 64 BITS
 
 

[quote=joel406;327524]
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by riojanitoperez View Post
Hi,
Then I can install windows 7 without having below vista?,
I am waiting for the upgrade and i have not installed yet windows vista yet,i notice yesterday microsoft that i sent in 15 days,but i have windows vista without installing, can make a instalacion clean?



I am sorry if this bad writing, i am spanish and I use a translator
thanks
a greeting
Hello rio: Your hard drive can be new...Totaly blank!

You can have Vista or XP installed and delete your partitions during setup and create new ones and format them and still perform a CLEAN INSTALL.

You do not need to rearm or any of that stuff just follow what I posted earlier.

I am starting my 6th Win7 ultimate install using that method.

It works every time.

I will never pay full version price again as long as MS keeps making it this easy.[/QUOTE
Thank you for the response so fast you and all,the hare as telling me
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26 Oct 2009   #35
riojanitoperez

windows 7 ULTIMATE 64 BITS
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by joel406 View Post
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by riojanitoperez View Post
Hi,
Then I can install windows 7 without having below vista?,
I am waiting for the upgrade and i have not installed yet windows vista yet,i notice yesterday microsoft that i sent in 15 days,but i have windows vista without installing, can make a instalacion clean?



I am sorry if this bad writing, i am spanish and I use a translator
thanks
a greeting
Hello rio: Your hard drive can be new...Totaly blank!

You can have Vista or XP installed and delete your partitions during setup and create new ones and format them and still perform a CLEAN INSTALL.

You do not need to rearm or any of that stuff just follow what I posted earlier.

I am starting my 6th Win7 ultimate install using that method.

It works every time.

I will never pay full version price again as long as MS keeps making it this easy.
Thank you for the response so fast you and all,what settle as contais me to do a greeting to all
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26 Oct 2009   #36
riojanitoperez

windows 7 ULTIMATE 64 BITS
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by joel406 View Post
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by riojanitoperez View Post
Hi,
Then I can install windows 7 without having below vista?,
I am waiting for the upgrade and i have not installed yet windows vista yet,i notice yesterday microsoft that i sent in 15 days,but i have windows vista without installing, can make a instalacion clean?



I am sorry if this bad writing, i am spanish and I use a translator
thanks
a greeting
Hello rio: Your hard drive can be new...Totaly blank!

You can have Vista or XP installed and delete your partitions during setup and create new ones and format them and still perform a CLEAN INSTALL.

You do not need to rearm or any of that stuff just follow what I posted earlier.

I am starting my 6th Win7 ultimate install using that method.

It works every time.

I will never pay full version price again as long as MS keeps making it this easy.
Thank you for the response
My System SpecsSystem Spec
26 Oct 2009   #37
riojanitoperez

windows 7 ULTIMATE 64 BITS
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Iknewitwin7 View Post
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by scubasteve View Post
Man...first off, I would like to thank folks for the info...but wow...I am still confused as to what the definitive answer is.
I have done an Install of Windows 7 Pro Upgrade ... went like a full copy, didn't ask for a previous version .. I have no clue why people are stating that you need to follow "special" steps for an upgrade version.
This is proof that he needed,thanks
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26 Oct 2009   #38
Tews

64-bit Windows 8.1 Pro
 
 

This question has been definitely answered by MS and is reflected in Brinks updated tutorial on using the Windows 7 Upgrade disc to do a clean install -=> Here
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27 Oct 2009   #39
Sonixmon

Windows 7 Pro
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Tews View Post
This question has been definitely answered by MS and is reflected in Brinks updated tutorial on using the Windows 7 Upgrade disc to do a clean install -=> Here

Kind of stupid that they did it that way, but I guess I am glad! I happen to install it as mentioned (uncheck the activate automatically) and activated it 3 days later (after running all updates) with no issue.
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