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Windows 7: Help - Doc wants to resize HD partitions

08 Jan 2014   #21

Windows 7 Pro x64 Windows 10 Pro x64

As Greg asks, open up E and post a screenshot and we can see if there`s anything else on it that doesn`t belong.

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08 Jan 2014   #22

Win7 Enterprise, Win7 x86 (Ult 7600), Win7 x64 Ult 7600, TechNet RTM on AMD x64 (2.8Ghz)

Do I need to delete the JW-HP folder on E: which is empty now ? But if I try to backup now, it says not enough space on E:
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08 Jan 2014   #23

Windows 7 Pro x64 Windows 10 Pro x64

You can`t do backups to E, we keep telling you.

Don`t use windows backup.

Don`t do backups unless you have an external hard drive.

You should be backing up your data yourself, not relying on windows to do it.

Don`t delete anything on E until you give us a screenshot.
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08 Jan 2014   #24
Microsoft MVP


This happens because Users like Doc's friend see the notification in Action Center to Set up Backup, enable Scheduled Backup without paying attention to where it is set to write. There is a link there to Manage Storage locations to adjust this.

This is a problem with an OEM or REcovery partition having a Drive Letter and why System Reserved partition doesn't have one. Backup is meant to write to a storage drive or partition. It can be written to another partition on the drive but then it isn't really a backup if the HD dies.

I don't know what JP-HW is, but is it empty even with System and Hidden files unhidden?
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09 Jan 2014   #25

Windows 7 Pro x64 Windows 10 Pro x64

It`s JW-HP so I would think it`s an HP folder.

Ya, I turn those tedious Action Center messages off after a new install.
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09 Jan 2014   #26

Win7 Enterprise, Win7 x86 (Ult 7600), Win7 x64 Ult 7600, TechNet RTM on AMD x64 (2.8Ghz)

JW-HP folder is where it was putting the backup until it said there was not enough room left for a new backup ????
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09 Jan 2014   #27

Win7 Enterprise, Win7 x86 (Ult 7600), Win7 x64 Ult 7600, TechNet RTM on AMD x64 (2.8Ghz)

I have to go to bed for the 5:45 wake up call tomorrow morning. I will do a back up to a ext portable HD tomorrow night. Thanks all.
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09 Jan 2014   #28

x64 (6.3.9600) Win8.1 Pro & soon dual boot x64 (6.1.7601) Win7_SP1 HomePrem

I'll post something quick and then go back and read again.

This is an HP box

  • sysres
  • c:\
  • d:\mfgr recovery
  • e: HP_Tools
That's 4 partitions - you'll have to figure out how you want to create the next partition (no dynamic parts)

HP_Tools is fairly useless, it holds the
  1. HP UEFI dignostics, which can be downloaded and put on a stick. It is not true UEFI, just diags.
  2. QuickWeb - Linux based (I think) boot with simple network, browser, clock calendar.... There's a small power button on my laptop that launches QuickWeb @ power on
    Quickweb is neat, but I stopped using it after a few "what does this do"
I forget where the file is on D: that throws up the html (it's either in desktop.ini or another file with htt extension.

Make a set of HP Recovery Discs and you can use that space (some members say "No, don't do that, then you can't F11" - oh well, I have the discs "But discs are not failsafe" - neither are HDs... make the discs anyway - maybe your friend already did... try, you can only make one set)

Now here's where you can really help your friend Doc - back up / image the system and do a clean install with Win7 U media. Your friend will have a setup of backups, an HP Recovery Disc, and a shiny new PC.

But Bill, all I wanted to do was repartion the drive, not make a major project out of this.

Yeah, I know.

Oh, E: is FAT32 - the machine is NOT storing Shadow Copies there and the backup screen shot showed last backup never.

I'll post back after reading some more.
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09 Jan 2014   #29
Microsoft MVP


These OEM partitions house the bootable Diagnostics on the Dell F12 and HP F9 BIOS Boot menus.

The question is why are they given a drive letter? Since I happen to have a factory HP and Dell here I am reinstalling tomorrow I will remove the drive letter and see if either Diagnostics or Recovery will boot. I don't believe either will boot on HP after a Clean Reinstall but OEM Utility Partition will boot on a Dell and is worth keeping for the wide range of hardware tests. But I'll do this while the factory install is still intact.

I'll also post back a screenshot of HP's E OEM partition after unhiding Hidden Files so we can compare the files with the ones Doc has on his to see what is still extra.

Doc, which folders exactly did you delete that were clogging the E partition? Were they titled Backup? The JW-HP might be intended to receive some backup files which were never written since it's empty.
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09 Jan 2014   #30

x64 (6.3.9600) Win8.1 Pro & soon dual boot x64 (6.1.7601) Win7_SP1 HomePrem

here's my DiskMng
C: Boot
D: User Profiles
Extended Part
Free Space
F: StoreLocal - holds install files, backups and dirty laundry
G: HP_TOOLS - must be CAPS, must be HP_TOOLS, does NOT have to be E:

You'll have to use Diskpart to create the Extended part and logical drives - I put all that junk at the end of my drive.
I installed the HP UEFI diags from the HP site - I did NOT reinstall QuickWeb
One thing the UEFI can do is manage BIOS updates/rollbacks - I just download and flash - neve used that feature

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