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Windows 7: Windows 7, another step backwards

05 Nov 2009   #111
Johnston7

Windows 7
 
 

Barman, with respect, I haven't a clue what you meant there.

But once my pc has reinstalled the dreaded 7 I will try it.


XP was never this complicated.


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05 Nov 2009   #112
Johnston7

Windows 7
 
 

Barman, just clicked on that link on my laptop and after hitting download was confronted with 4 folders.

What do I do?
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05 Nov 2009   #113
Barman58

Windows 10 Pro x64 x2 Windows 10 Enterprise x64, Ubuntu
 
 

All you need to do is run the Autoruns.exe program and there is a save icon on the toolbar which will save the file in a readable format
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05 Nov 2009   #114
ripbox

Windows 7 Home Premium x64 SP1
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by 96accord View Post
Just wait until there will be no updates/support for XP (i don't know when that will happen tho lol)
I hear some time back now mid to late 2008 then M$ would stop technical support for XP and approximately 1 year after that day there will be no more updates or service packs (this was an in source by a IT technician at a company i worked for) but this is not top say my information is correct
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05 Nov 2009   #115
Barman58

Windows 10 Pro x64 x2 Windows 10 Enterprise x64, Ubuntu
 
 

As far as I am aware Windows XP has already entered into the final stage of support which means that only security updates will be produced and free support from Microsoft has ended. Anyone wanting support is expected to pay on the per incident rate
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10 Nov 2009   #116
noyb

XP MCE .... XP Pro 64 .... W7 U x64
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Barman58 View Post
...only security updates will be produced ...
That's all I need .. It isn't broke now .. And I'm not going to try to fix it.

I just wish they'd quit trying to shove SP3 at me.
I did that once .. And had to fix it.
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10 Nov 2009   #117
Sylver Cheetah 53

Windows 7 Ultimate x64 RC
 
 

Win7 is just like Vista, but with more drivers. Win XP is far more easy to use and it let you take full advantage of your RAM.
Win7 is just another failure by Microsoft.
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10 Nov 2009   #118
Creer

Windows 7 Home Premium x32 SP1
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Sylver Cheetah 53 View Post
Win7 is just like Vista, but with more drivers. Win XP is far more easy to use and it let you take full advantage of your RAM.
Win7 is just another failure by Microsoft.
Windows Vista introduced new memory management, now in Windows 7 it is more polished/improved. It's true that with Windows XP you have more 'free' RAM but hey... why do buy 1GB/2GB or even more RAM if it is completely unused? If you feel better with this then OK.

Personally, first time when I switched from Windows XP to Windows 7 - I noticed very huge improvements in RAM area (I don't care that Windows XP used after fresh install ~300MB RAM, and Windows 7 ~460MB of RAM) I mean every single app now starts very quickly comparing to Windows XP - and yes it is because of RAM management. You buy RAM to use it not to observe how much 'free' RAM you have right now. I would say more - even when my system reached 99% Psyhical memory usage - it was still responsible, and I had not any problems to use them - when under XP I had hang out/lags or BSOD.
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10 Nov 2009   #119
Barman58

Windows 10 Pro x64 x2 Windows 10 Enterprise x64, Ubuntu
 
 

If you look at XP, one of the popular 3rd party software add ons was the memory manager.
So people were paying for something that is now in the OS - and of course when it comes to understanding the memory management needs of the OS the people best qualified to understand the requirements are the developers who designed the OS.
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10 Nov 2009   #120
H2SO4

Win7x64
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Creer View Post
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Sylver Cheetah 53 View Post
Win7 is just like Vista, but with more drivers. Win XP is far more easy to use and it let you take full advantage of your RAM.
Win7 is just another failure by Microsoft.
Windows Vista introduced new memory management, now Windows 7 it is more polished/improved. It's true that with Windows XP you have more 'free' RAM but hey... why do buy 1GB/2GB or even more RAM if it is completely unused? If you feel better with this then OK.

Personally, first time when I switched from Windows XP to Windows 7 - I noticed very huge improvements in RAM area (I don't care that Windows XP used after fresh install ~300MB RAM, and Windows 7 ~460MB of RAM) I mean every single app now starts very quickly comparing to Windows XP - and yes it is because of RAM management. You buy RAM to use it not to observe how much 'free' RAM you have right now. I would say more - even when my system reach 99% Psyhical memory usage - it was still responsible, and I had not any problems to use them - when under XP I had hang out/lags or BSOD.
For what it's worth, XP also had a caching mechanism which kept its so-called "Available" memory populated, but it wasn't predictive - it was detritus which had been "trimmed" from process working sets due to inactivity.

XP's Task Manager didn't actually show a "Free" counter at all - only the "Available" memory which was largely composed of what Vista/W7 call the "cache". Hence, what probably bothers Mr. Cheetah is the more accurate reporting.
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