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Windows 7: Ideas on an XP problem please

02 Nov 2014   #11

Desk1 7 Home Prem / Desk2 10 Pro / Main lap Asus ROG 10 Pro 2 laptop Toshiba 7 Pro Asus P2520 7 & 10

Thanks mate I might have to try the Ubuntu as the repair stuff I have inserted the XP OS disk gone to repair in Recovery Console and it is asking for an admin password and the fellow I cannot contact until later

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02 Nov 2014   #12

W7 Ultimate SP1, LM18.2 MATE, W10 Home, #All 64 bit
Set Permission

You'll probably have to set the "Execute" permission on those scripts.

To set the Permissions and run the scripts have a look at these links:
command line - How to run a script? - Ask Ubuntu
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03 Nov 2014   #13

Desk1 7 Home Prem / Desk2 10 Pro / Main lap Asus ROG 10 Pro 2 laptop Toshiba 7 Pro Asus P2520 7 & 10

Ok mate I have the Ubuntu up and running and can see the stuff they want to recover before they probably trash this machine (which I will do up for some kid who cannot afford one as it has a decent processor Q8200 quad and 4GB RAM on a little Asus KP5PL-CM board) It is that expensive CAD stuff they want and are hoping it will install on a new tower with hopefully 7. .
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03 Nov 2014   #14


XP has repair from the first R prompt after booting XP disk to repair Startup using these same commands: How to use the Bootrec.exe tool in the Windows Recovery Environment to troubleshoot and repair startup issues in Windows

Then if that fails to repair boot you can also run from the XP disk an XP Repair Install
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03 Nov 2014   #15

Desk1 7 Home Prem / Desk2 10 Pro / Main lap Asus ROG 10 Pro 2 laptop Toshiba 7 Pro Asus P2520 7 & 10

Ok Greg thanks mate I did try the second option way this afternoon but I did not get as far as the sliding yellow bar. Off the top of my head I cannot remember the exact process but it did end with that request to enter the Administrator word. As they do not know of such a word I tried the word itself - Administrator administrator ADMINISTRATOR Admin admin etc etc but no go. The owner tells me he was never given a password and they have never had to login to the machine.

The strange thing is that the install disk they gave me was still in it's sealed pack form Microsoft and I have no reason to suspect it is fraudulent. The only thing I can think of is the install was done via an OEM and whoever built this machine has been a tad obscure with the owner when he bought the machine and just picked up a MS packet and given it to him. So perhaps the package stuff is different to what was installed

Plus I checked in the BIOS thinking maybe it was in there as by this time I was really scratching round for ideas.

Still I have found all the data on the drive with a Ubuntu boot and shall try to retrieve what he wants most of all that expensive CAD software and workshop data.

I have a few other things to run yet like Speccy to find the activation code which I will compare to the package I opened this afternoon.
I think he is now at my suggestion thinking if that software can be retrieved then he will but a new tower with 7 on it or at least I can put 7 on it or even a new drive on this machine because I run a similar rig (Q#### CPU and 4GB DDR2 RAM) with 64bit 7 and in that case he will only be up for a new hard drive and OEM (about $185 AUD all up and my time to install it and configure the CAD stuff.

If he really wants a completely new rig then that's his choice but I wouldn't mind buying this one and doing it up for Lynne's grandkids.
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03 Nov 2014   #16

Desk1 7 Home Prem / Desk2 10 Pro / Main lap Asus ROG 10 Pro 2 laptop Toshiba 7 Pro Asus P2520 7 & 10

Greg I just realized that link you gave me I was using the second option and not the first because I didn't want to wreck any data on the drive. So out of the three options I should use the top one -
"To set up Windows XP now. Press enter" ?? I can do that as long as I know the data will not be lost.
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03 Nov 2014   #17


If there is no password then try leaving the box blank.

You do have to choose Setup to get to the R choice for Repair Install.

It keeps all files in place but is old enough now I would not risk files without backing them up first. To do this you can use a Linux Boot Disk, Paragon Rescue CD, or...

I've never tried to use the mini-explorer which XP disk offers to load drivers to copy out files which is the clever trick developed here to Copy & Paste - in Windows Recovery Console. But you can try it to see.
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03 Nov 2014   #18

windows ultimate x64

Don't know if it's fixed or if you have tried this, if you can get to safe mode that is:

Prevent programs from starting using msconfig

Prevent non-essential programs from starting; software that starts with Windows may interfere with other programs trying to start at the same time. Be sure to disable only items that are known and unwanted. Disabling programs that a device needs might prevent the device from working correctly.

1. Turn on the computer.
2. Press the F8 key repeatedly when the first screen displays, about once every second, until a menu screen displays.
3. Use the Up Arrow or Down Arrow keys to select Safe Mode.
4. Press Enter to start Windows XP in Safe Mode.
5. Click Start, click Run, and type the following into the Open field: msconfig
6. Click OK.
The System Configuration Utility window displays.
7. Click the General tab, and select Selective Startup.
8. Click the Startup tab and remove the checkmarks from any task that does not contribute to the system and is unwanted. If unsure about a task, write the name down and research it on the Internet later. Never remove a checkmark if you do not know what the task does.
9. Click OK to accept the changes, and restart the computer.
The computer opens into Windows when the startup software that is causing the issue is found.

If Windows or other important software stops working after using the steps in this section, restart the computer, press F8 repeatedly at the first screen to start Windows in safe mode, and use this section again to replace the checkmarks that were removed.
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04 Nov 2014   #19

Desk1 7 Home Prem / Desk2 10 Pro / Main lap Asus ROG 10 Pro 2 laptop Toshiba 7 Pro Asus P2520 7 & 10

Greg here are some shots of what happens when I boot to the installation disk in the pics hopefully in order is what happens. I try the "R" option from the blue screen - I use enter instead of trying the password and pick fixmbr it takes me eventually to the warning screen.
What I am concerned about is that access to other partitions will be lost so what next?
Or should I use the top option in the blue screen?

Techquest mate have exhausted all the safe mode stuff - no go.

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04 Nov 2014   #20


Did you select 1 for the OS to repair?

Still the same warning message? Google it's text to see how to resolve it.
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