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Windows 7: Pagefile constantly going crazy - please help

24 Feb 2015   #21
Faladu

Windows 7 Ultimate Retail Box (64-bit installed) + Service Pack 1
 
 

Is that motherboard Dual Channel (2 or 4 RAM slots, not 3 or 6), then yes you need a 4th stick and you are taking a performance hit using 3.

If it's triple channel (a dead technology) then the 3 1gig sticks are correct.

I suggest using 1024 min max page file.

If it was on another HD the OS is not on, not just partition, that is best, although I would avoid it on SSD due to finite # of writes.


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24 Feb 2015   #22
Layback Bear

Windows 10 Pro. 64/ version 1709 Windows 7 Pro/64
 
 

Asus P6T Deluxe v1 is triple channel
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24 Feb 2015   #23
tgfyhre

Windows 7 32bit Home Premium
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Faladu View Post
Is that motherboard Dual Channel (2 or 4 RAM slots, not 3 or 6), then yes you need a 4th stick and you are taking a performance hit using 3.

If it's triple channel (a dead technology) then the 3 1gig sticks are correct.

I suggest using 1024 min max page file.

If it was on another HD the OS is not on, not just partition, that is best, although I would avoid it on SSD due to finite # of writes.
Yup - triple channel.

Wow - the 1024 number is much smaller than the ~4500 that was mentioned earlier in the thread (1.5 times the amount of RAM). may I ask why I should set it lower, to 1024? Does a smaller pagefile offer a benefit over a larger one?
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24 Feb 2015   #24
Faladu

Windows 7 Ultimate Retail Box (64-bit installed) + Service Pack 1
 
 

The smaller the better, you want windows using actual RAM as RAM, not much slower hard drive space as RAM.

I start at 1024 and if that works fine (expected) I'd not change it.

Letting Windows decide the virtual memory size could result in an often re-sized file, and fragmentation, 1024 should be plenty for most.

I suggest 0/0 min max, reboot, defragment the HD it's going on, and then 1024/1024 min max it and reboot again.

That was a much more critical helper with older windows versions with less RAM.

I also knew that the Intel 9xx CPU series was the last one using triple channel, it was a possible A+ exam fact.... muhahaha!
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24 Feb 2015   #25
tgfyhre

Windows 7 32bit Home Premium
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Faladu View Post
The smaller the better, you want windows using actual RAM as RAM, not much slower hard drive space as RAM.

I start at 1024 and if that works fine (expected) I'd not change it.

Letting Windows decide the virtual memory size could result in an often re-sized file, and fragmentation, 1024 should be plenty for most.

I suggest 0/0 min max, reboot, defragment the HD it's going on, and then 1024/1024 min max it and reboot again.

That was a much more critical helper with older windows versions with less RAM.
Okay, thanks. That makes sense - that's what I wanted - for Windows to use my available memory instead of paging everything back and forth like it does. I'll give that a shot.
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24 Feb 2015   #26
Faladu

Windows 7 Ultimate Retail Box (64-bit installed) + Service Pack 1
 
 

RAM gets confusing but it is very important, Video RAM is the fastest of all.
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24 Feb 2015   #27
lehnerus2000

W7 Ultimate SP1, LM18.3 MATE, W10 Home, #All 64 bit
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by tgfyhre View Post
Wow - the 1024 number is much smaller than the ~4500 that was mentioned earlier in the thread (1.5 times the amount of RAM). may I ask why I should set it lower, to 1024? Does a smaller pagefile offer a benefit over a larger one?
A smaller Page File uses less HDD/SSD space.

The "1.5x RAM size" recommendation dates back many years (probably pre-XP).
RAM was a lot more expensive in the past.

That said, my W2K8 server book also recommends "1.5x RAM size".

As a rule, W7 only uses a few hundred MB (on my PC).
Since I have mine set to 2048 MB minimum, it uses slighty more than that amount of space on my HDD.
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25 Feb 2015   #28
4wd

W7, W8.1
 
 

tgfyhre, what does resource monitor > memory look like immediately after boot? Lots of things loading or some special program specifically addressing the pagefile?

My trusty old HP laptop got w7 32bit 4mb, 450mb fixed pagefile, and always have lots of memory available under all normal\daily use conditions, even with the 1gb+ set as reserved, & it's a fast, good machine. See attach.


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25 Feb 2015   #29
tgfyhre

Windows 7 32bit Home Premium
 
 

Okay, well setting my pagefile to 1024 isn't working very well for me. I set it last night, and this morning I ran phpar (a multi-threaded par2 parity program) to create some parity backup for some files while I was surfing using Firefox, and several times Windows popped up a message that I was low on memory, and my browser became sluggish and unresponsive. I never got that message once before I switched my pagefile over to 1024. So I guess I'll just switch my pagefile back to where I had it initially (1.5x my RAM).

@4WD, I'll check my resource monitor the next time I reboot.
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26 Feb 2015   #30
SaNdMaN82

Windows 7 Profesional x64
 
 

A good rules of thumbs is to star using the same amount of real storage as paging... Then you can tune it depending on your particular usage...
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