Extremely long shutdown

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  1. whs
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    Extremely long shutdown


    My W7 shutdown is extremely long - about 3 times the boot time = 60 sec. Does anybody have a good recommendation for a shutdown tracing program that works and you have used yourself - I know how to Google, LOL.
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    You'll need to get Cluberti to read it although he'd gladly teach you if you ask: Trace Windows 7 boot-shutdown-hibernate-standby-resume issues - MSFN Forums

    You can also get a good idea of problem startups (which are often problem shutdowns) by installing Soluto – Anti-Frustration Software which provides a less complicated trace and how to use Soluto to remove unnecessary apps from the boot : Soluto Support
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  3. whs
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       #3

    Thanks Greg. It's not a startup problem - I have no startups and have run Soluto in the past.

    The strange thing is that Event 200 in the event viewer reports 6 sec shutdown where in reality it is more like 60 sec. What is also strange that from time to time (but rarely) it actually shuts down in 6 sec. Go figure.
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  4. Posts : 25,847
    Windows 10 Pro. 64/ version 1709 Windows 7 Pro/64
       #4

    At times I have the same problem Wolfgang is having.
    I have not been able to completely figured it out.

    The only thing that I have figured out so far is my normal cleaning I do before shut down. Ccleander and Disk Cleanup Extended and the history of the browsers being cleaned.

    Sometime the clean extends into the shut down. It all depends on what is being cleaned up.

    I have no prof or documentation just my trial and error methods.

    I have Ccleander to only delete files in Windows temps that are older than 24 hours. Some times those files are large and sometimes small. Remembering that some things being deleted completely need a reboot or shut down and a start to completely be remove might be part of the problem.

    Most of my shut downs are 4 to 6 sec. but at times a shout down can be 60 to 90 sec.
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    If Event 200 says 6 secs and it extends beyond that then it could be hardware that is exceeding Windows own shutdown.

    Carl will find out what it is. I had a roommate's Dell lappy with 2 minute Start and Shutdown which he traced to slow 5400 rpm HD. A boot defrag of System files cut both in half.

    Let us know how you find the trace results interpretation - bit complicated for me but others have taken to them easier.
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  6. whs
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    I made the trace with the WPT and got these 2 files plus a log file:

    'C:\TEMP\shutdown_BASE+CSWITCH+DRIVERS+POWER_1_um_premerge.etl'
    'C:\TEMP\shutdown_BASE+CSWITCH+DRIVERS+POWER_1_km_premerge.etl

    But severl attempts to get the XML files with XPERF failed. I guess I have to study that some more.
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    Windows 10 Pro. 64/ version 1709 Windows 7 Pro/64
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    Okay Wolfgang study time is over. Tell us what you have found.
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  8. whs
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    I could somehow interpret the graphs and they recorded only 6.4 sec shutdown time - same as Event 200 in Event Viewer. I wonder where the other 50 sec went.

    The funny thing is, yesterday the system actually shut down in 6 sec. That happens about twice per month.
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    Multi-Boot W7_Pro_x64 W8.1_Pro_x64 W10_Pro_x64 +Linux_VMs +Chromium_VM
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    You could try Verbose Messages to see if it helps show where the slowness is.
    I've used regedit to add the verbosestatus entry in Win 7 and Win 8.1

    To use enable verbose status messages by editing the registry, follow these steps:
    1. Click Start, and then click Run.
    2. In the Open box, type regedit, and then click OK.
    3. Locate and then click the following registry key:HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Policies\System
    4. On the Edit menu, point to New, and then click DWORD Value.
    5. Type verbosestatus, and then press ENTER.
    6. Double-click the new key that you created, type 1 in the Value data box, and then click OK.
    7. Quit Registry Editor.
    Source: https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/kb/325376
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  10. whs
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    Hmm, interesting. Thanks David. I think what I will do is a new installation. This one is nearly 4 years old and has accumulated a lot of gremlins that are not worth chasing. I wanted to put a different SSD into the box anyhow. Right now I have a 60GB Crucial M4 but on my desk I have a brand new 240GB M500. Has been sitting there since November.
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