wuauserv causing svchost memory usage to explode

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  1. Posts : 9
    Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit Service Pack 1
       #1

    wuauserv causing svchost memory usage to explode


    To be honest, I started out investigating the wrong thing. This all started because I would have errors in Chrome. The Aww, Snap or It's Dead Jim errors, etc. Or Chrome would just crash and I would relaunch and restore. I did normal Chrome things like check the shockwave and flash files, disable extensions, and finally created a new user profile. But I still got application exception errors after that.

    Then I saw it.

    I had Task Manager open and saw one of the svchost instances jump from a normal 22,988 K to 995,688 K!!! And then saw it go higher! And at the bottom of task manager, my Physical Memory was at 86% instead of it's normal 30-40%.

    So first I looked at which services were associated with that svchost process. The services were: BITS, Browser, IKEEXT, iphlpsvc, LanmanServer, ProfSvc, Schedule, SENS, ShellHWDetection, Themes, Winmmt, & wuauserv.

    Of those, the only one I knew exactly what it was associated with was wuauserv. So I stopped that service. As *SOON* as I stopped it, the memory for svchost dropped back down to normal.

    So I left wuaserv stopped and set startup to Manual.

    About 15 or 20 minutes later, something started it back up and memory exploded to the same levels again. So I stopped it and again, memory usage dropped back down. This time I set wuauserv startup to Disabled.

    So, I guess what I am looking for is suggestions on what to troubleshoot or clear or cleanup so that I can start wuauserv without the excessive memory usage causing exception errors and causing Chrome to crash.

    My system is a homebuilt system running Win 7 Home Premium x64. 8gb ram. Plextor 256gb ssd. Asus P8Z68-V board. i5-2500k cpu.
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  2.    #2

    There are a multitude of unintended consequences with disabling Services in an OS as lean as Win7. Better to repair, if you're confident you already have a solid install. If not look over these steps which compile everything that works best in a Clean Reinstall Windows 7.

    Otherwise work through the Troubleshooting Steps for Windows 7 starting with establishing a Clean Boot, running full Malwarebyte and SuperAntiSpyware scans, then System File Checker. If these don't resolve it then continue working through the steps which almost always pin down the problem if not the solution.
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  3. Posts : 4,776
    Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit 7601 Multiprocessor Free Service Pack 1
       #3

    Just a quick note to say that I had the same problem with svchost.exe and wuaserv very recently. It turned out to be a pending update problem. It might have been caused by my registry hack to disable internet explorer and also I keep system restore disabled. The latest round of updates to patch the Freak vulnerability replaced tons of system files and required a couple of reboots. For whatever reason things didn't go well for me.

    Action that I took:

    Ran a couple of my usual tools to fix and repair windows updates, clear pending updates and windows update history. Usually this works but no luck this time.

    Rolled back system to a system image made before installing the latest updates. Kept system offline and re-enabled IE and system restore. Went online and re-downloaded and installed the missing updates. Everything was then fine.

    I'm no expert on Windows Updates but would suggest getting help with checking for any problems particularly with pending updates.
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  4. Posts : 9
    Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit Service Pack 1
    Thread Starter
       #4

    Thanks for the recommendations. While I was waiting on responses, I did 2 things.

    1. I did run SFC and it came back fine.

    2. I ran Disk Cleanup and let it clean up update files.

    After a reboot, I re-enabled the wuauserv service. And started it. Then went to Windows Update to check for updates. svchost did once again explode. From 23,699 to 1,013,xxx and higher. However...unlike before where my physical memory percentage shot up from around 30% to 86%, this time it stayed in the 30-42% range (though admittedly, I didn't have Chrome running). I did all critical updates then made sure Windows Updates was set to never check for updates (but left wuauserv alone) and rebooted.

    After reboot, something did call on wuauserv. Don't know what since Updates were set to never check, but something did start it. And svchost again went up...but a whole lot less...only into the 450,000 range. And physical memory again stayed reasonable. And now, after a while, svchost is back to normal and physical memory is sitting at 28%.

    So...the problem is most definitely related to the Windows Update agent. And I would like to know what starts it even though Updates are set to never check.

    To be honest, I might just re-disable wuauserv. After troubleshooting this all day I won't lose any sleep if wuauserv is disabled since I had updates set to Never Check anyway.
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  5. Posts : 25,847
    Windows 10 Pro. 64/ version 1709 Windows 7 Pro/64
       #5

    Why would you not want Windows 7 Updates?

    The setting I use.

    Check for updates but let me choose whether to download and install
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  6. Posts : 9
    Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit Service Pack 1
    Thread Starter
       #6

    Layback Bear said:
    Why would you not want Windows 7 Updates?
    Mostly because it is far easier to remember the times that updates have caused problems than all the times they don't.

    And at the moment I would much rather eliminate the source of high memory usage and other applications crashing. And if that source is Windows Update (wuauserv) then so be it.

    I'm still trying to figure out what process or app causes wuauserv to start up even with Windows Update set to Never Check. Something starts it. Just can't tell what yet. I checked the WindowsUpdate.log and when it starts up, the "Caller ID = " is blank. (When Windows Update is set to auto check instead of never, then Caller ID is Windows Update.)

    One of my next steps may be to delete (or at least rename) the c:\windows\SoftwareDistribution folder. But I'm putting that off as a last resort item.

    Or I may just go with leaving wuauserv set to disabled and just manually enable whenever I want to check for updates.

    Everything else on the system has been fine and continues to be fine. And when wuauserv has been disabled I have had no Chrome problems at all versus the previous multiple crashes a day. And physical memory usage is remaining in a normal 30-45% range rather than 86%.
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  7. Posts : 25,847
    Windows 10 Pro. 64/ version 1709 Windows 7 Pro/64
       #7

    Must be your system.
    Billions of people around the world get Windows Update.
    Ever now and then their is a problem KB but not often and it's taken care of by Microsoft quickly.

    If you complete this tutorial and post the log here maybe one of our experts can locate your problem.


    Windows Genuine and Activation Issue Posting Instructions
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  8. Posts : 9
    Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit Service Pack 1
    Thread Starter
       #8

    Layback Bear said:
    Must be your system.
    Billions of people around the world get Windows Update.
    Yes...thus the reason I posted here in the first place?

    If you complete this tutorial and post the log here maybe one of our experts can locate your problem.
    Windows Genuine and Activation Issue Posting Instructions
    Umm...yes, my system is 100% legit.

    Code:
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    Browser Data-->
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  9. Posts : 9
    Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit Service Pack 1
    Thread Starter
       #9

    Malware Bytes...only found 5 registry entries
    Code:
    Malwarebytes Anti-Malware
    www.malwarebytes.org
    
    Scan Date: 3/20/2015
    Scan Time: 11:41:47 AM
    Logfile: MBAM.txt
    Administrator: Yes
    
    Version: 2.01.4.1018
    Malware Database: v2015.03.20.05
    Rootkit Database: v2015.02.25.01
    License: Free
    Malware Protection: Disabled
    Malicious Website Protection: Disabled
    Self-protection: Disabled
    
    OS: Windows 7 Service Pack 1
    CPU: x64
    File System: NTFS
    User: myname
    
    Scan Type: Threat Scan
    Result: Completed
    Objects Scanned: 371988
    Time Elapsed: 4 min, 46 sec
    
    Memory: Enabled
    Startup: Enabled
    Filesystem: Enabled
    Archives: Enabled
    Rootkits: Disabled
    Heuristics: Enabled
    PUP: Enabled
    PUM: Enabled
    
    Processes: 0
    (No malicious items detected)
    
    Modules: 0
    (No malicious items detected)
    
    Registry Keys: 4
    PUP.Optional.MyFreeze.A, HKLM\SOFTWARE\WOW6432NODE\Freeze.com, Quarantined, [dee73c0b8cfe48ee878c853cc2414db3], 
    Adware.TryMedia, HKU\S-1-5-21-3923643399-1494497486-2402846068-1000\SOFTWARE\Trymedia Systems, Quarantined, [a71ec97e206a3afcf5e9146743c18977], 
    PUP.Optional.InstallCore.A, HKU\S-1-5-21-3923643399-1494497486-2402846068-1000\SOFTWARE\INSTALLCORE\1I1T1Q1S, Quarantined, [3c892c1b2169360013a3ac559b69a65a], 
    PUP.Optional.InstallCore.A, HKU\S-1-5-21-3923643399-1494497486-2402846068-1000\SOFTWARE\INSTALLCORE, Quarantined, [576e301782080b2bd9b773a4897ce61a], 
    
    Registry Values: 1
    PUP.Optional.InstallCore.A, HKU\S-1-5-21-3923643399-1494497486-2402846068-1000\SOFTWARE\INSTALLCORE|tb, 0G2Y1R2X0G1M2S1M0G1S1H, Quarantined, [576e301782080b2bd9b773a4897ce61a]
    
    Registry Data: 0
    (No malicious items detected)
    
    Folders: 0
    (No malicious items detected)
    
    Files: 0
    (No malicious items detected)
    
    Physical Sectors: 0
    (No malicious items detected)
    
    
    (end)
    SuperAntiSpyware...found a couple hundred Adware Tracking Cookies. Can post the whole log if desired, but only found these tracking cookies.

    Also, because I don't think I mentioned it above, my AV program is ESET NOD32.

    SFC /SCANNOW = Windows Resource Protection did not find any integrity violations.
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  10. Posts : 25,847
    Windows 10 Pro. 64/ version 1709 Windows 7 Pro/64
       #10

    Well if you still can't update your system after cleaning out all the bad things. I would suggest posting here for Update help.

    https://www.sevenforums.com/windows-updates-activation/


    We have experts that can do a lot more than I can.
    Just hyper link this thread if need be so they can take a read if they so desire.

    Their is no good reason not to keep Windows 7 up to date.
    Proper Windows 7 Update is a important security measure.

    Be sure you let them know you have been turning things on and off for Windows 7 Updates.

    If it was my computer I would do a Repair Install because I would forget what settings I have changed. That is just me. Their might be a quicker way.

    Tutorial by Brink if you choose Repair Install.

    Repair Install
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