Part 2: Microsoft silently preparing your PC for Win 10

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  1. whs
    Posts : 26,213
    Vista, Windows7, Mint Mate, Zorin, Windows 8
       #151

    The GUI has to be right. That is the first thing people see and if it turns them off, the OS goes nowhere. Improvements under the hood are welcome but will be unnoticeable for many people. New function can be important for those segments of the market that need them. But the average user is rarely looking for the kind of new function they offer. Who has a 3D printer.
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  2. Posts : 4,048
    W7 Ultimate SP1, LM19.2 MATE, W10 Home 1703, W10 Pro 1703 VM, #All 64 bit
       #152

    MilesAhead said:
    Excuse me I have to look to see if FF is up to v. 50.x yet(I have autoupdates disabled.) :)
    Not quite.

    TVeblen said:
    In Windows 8 and 10 there is faster start up. About a third of the time faster.
    I didn't try Hybrid boot when I used the W8 previews (I used VHDs).
    Its standard boot was about ~10 seconds faster than W7 on my PC.

    The performance improvements seemed to be highly variable.
    Some users claimed big improvements and others claimed their PCs were slower.
    It didn't seems slower, but I don't think it was obviously faster on my PC

    My W10TP VMs seemed to boot fairly quickly (~20s).
    However they slowed down considerably once I installed a few programs (>50s).

    TVeblen said:
    Windows 10 has virtual desktops, which could be a practical tool.
    IMO, they still aren't as handy as the Linux Distro virtual desktops, but at least MS has improved them since b9841.

    whs said:
    Who has a 3D printer.
    My friend bought one.
    He uses Arch Linux though.
    Last edited by lehnerus2000; 18 Apr 2015 at 11:46. Reason: Quote Added
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  3. Posts : 5,915
    Windows 10 Pro X64
       #153

    Layback Bear said:
    Something else I have alway wondered; Windows 8 and Windows 10 touch screen. How do you right tick.
    Right tick opens a world of things we work with all the time.

    So far all I know what one gains with Windows 10.

    1. It will talk to you.
    2. It's easy to sync everything including your coffee pot.
    3. You can have the joy of a lot of colored squares.
    4. If you have enough money you can make the side of your house a holograph screen if you buy special head gear.
    5. Every time you type something Bing jumps up with a lot of websites.
    6. You no longer have the bothersome and terrible Control Panel or all those ugly icons.
    7. If you hold your mouth just right a panel will pop out of the right side of the screen.
    8. The big thing you gain is you now can have just about everything in a Cloud and then have prayer session to insure the internet doesn't go down when you want to do something.

    ***Feel free to add to my list of things we gain with Windows 10.***
    I have no idea on the touchscreen part.

    1. What is Cortana MS is keeping up

    2. OneDrive, you do not have to use it. You can use it in W7 too. I don't have a "smart coffee pot"

    3. You can use a desktop and customize things

    4. Personally I thing the new HOLO technology is cool

    5. You can limit Bing intergration

    6. Control panel is still there

    7. Charming

    8. This is where technology is going. You do not have to use the cloud, it is an option

    I like Windows 10. I like windows 8.1, Window 7, and I liked Windows vista. I liked xp, 98, and 95.

    What is sums up to is I like rolling with the changes. My whole point is people get set in their ways and don't want change. That works for a while, but eventually you have to change. Rather than complain, I learn to adapt.

    Just my two cents
    Last edited by Dude; 18 Apr 2015 at 12:54.
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  4. Posts : 20,583
    Win-7-Pro64bit 7-H-Prem-64bit
       #154

    TVeblen said:
    In Windows 8 and 10 there is faster start up. About a third of the time faster.
    .
    I did not see anything faster than win-7 installed on a ssd,
    I actually saw win-10 slower at startup if you get rid of the lock screen via group policy.

    The fast startup features are what killed my hdd
    I would prefer an os to completely shut down as I shut down and not pretend to just be a Instant go or some new hibernate state awaiting to startup where you left off.

    I'd also prefer 10 not to reset setting simply having to reboot which 10 reset boot to -0- seconds after major updates
    That's not very helpful especially if a booting problem occurs for whatever reason -0- seconds makes getting to bios irritatingly difficult :)
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  5. whs
    Posts : 26,213
    Vista, Windows7, Mint Mate, Zorin, Windows 8
       #155

    W10 is slower than W8.1 on my system. They are both in VMware Player and maybe that distorts reality.
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  6. Posts : 36
       #156

    I think the updates did something as my Windows 8.1 tablet showed a notification on the top right screen that read "Windows 10 is ready"! But when I clicked it, it opened Windows Update with 2 updates available which wasn't anything to do with Windows 10! How strange! I would show a pic but it won't let me add a picture of the notification.
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  7. Posts : 73
    Windows 7 Home Premium 32 Bit
       #157

    whs said:
    W10 is slower than W8.1 on my system. They are both in VMware Player and maybe that distorts reality.
    why vmware? you could native boot w10 in a vhd[x] file container. It has the same effect as being in an isolated vm, but runs at native speed. I ain't never gonna install w8+ on a real partition again thanks to this feature.
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  8. Posts : 6,330
    Multi-Boot W7_Pro_x64 W8.1_Pro_x64 W10_Pro_x64 +Linux_VMs +Chromium_VM
       #158

    astroroxy10 said:
    I would show a pic but it won't let me add a picture of the notification.
    Hello astroroxy10 and welcome to Seven Forums.
    Here is a tutorial by Brink showing how to attach a screen print in SF posts:
    Screenshots and Files - Upload and Post in Seven Forums

    If you can't attach a screen print,
    As a new SF member maybe you can't attach a screen print "yet", not enough SF posts/time etc. ?
    The SF admins would need to confirm if that is the problem ...
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  9. Posts : 36
       #159

    DavidE said:
    astroroxy10 said:
    I would show a pic but it won't let me add a picture of the notification.
    Hello astroroxy10 and welcome to Seven Forums.
    Here is a tutorial by Brink showing how to attach a screen print in SF posts:
    Screenshots and Files - Upload and Post in Seven Forums

    If you can't attach a screen print,
    As a new SF member maybe you can't attach a screen print "yet", not enough SF posts/time etc. ?
    The SF admins would need to confirm if that is the problem ...
    Well I have an app on my phone to view this forum and I have the screenshot on my phone. Every time I try to attach something it says it's disabled by an admin. I have been signed up for this website for months. The app I have is called Tapatalk and it made this account for me.
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  10. Posts : 49,708
    Windows 11 Workstation x64
       #160

    Try now.
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