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Windows 7: can you change an admin account to standard?

11 Nov 2009   #1
jepherz

Windows 7
 
 
can you change an admin account to standard?

I want to change my first account from admin to standard, but you need to have atleast 1 admin account on available at the time, so since it was my only account, I made another and made that admin too, the I changed my first created account to standard. However! The first account can freely go from standard back to admin by itself...is there a way to stop this?


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11 Nov 2009   #2
aem

Windows 7 Ultimate 64Bit
 
 

You cannot demote your root admin account.
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11 Nov 2009   #3
richc46

Microsoft Community Contributor Award Recipient

Windows 10, Home Clean Install
 
 

When I installed Win7, I had 3 accounts in Vista, 2 Admin and 1 Standard. Standard was the one that I normally use and wanted all the setting transferred to Win7. To be sure that I would not be locked out as Admin, I changed the standard account to Admin. and made all the transfer arrangements from the formerly standard account and it was the only one that I transferred.

After installation I had only one accoount, since I only transferred one. I made 2 others and they were Admin. I changed the account that was transferred to standard. I have not had any problems.

You can adjust the core account permanently to standard

To the original poster, I would make a new admin account, transfer anything that is important to the new account and then delete the problem account
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11 Nov 2009   #4
iseeuu

 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by aem View Post
You cannot demote your root admin account.
aem;

I am not sure I understand your post, hope you can clear it up for me?

Windows 7 install, by default, gives you the option of naming the first user account, with Administrator privileges. The root Administrator account is disabled by default.

So if the OP (Original Poster) is using the default administrator account (and has not enabled the root administrator account to use), he can do what I just did: Change the first user account from administrator to standard user. Before I did that, I changed one of my standard user accounts to administrator so I can easily change it back.

So, yes, you can change the first user account from administrator to standard user. Go to Control Panel, to User Accounts, then Manage another account and change it to a standard user account.

Please let me know if this is not correct?

Cheers!
Robert
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12 Nov 2009   #5
H2SO4

Win7x64
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by iseeuu View Post
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by aem View Post
You cannot demote your root admin account.
aem;

I am not sure I understand your post, hope you can clear it up for me?

Windows 7 install, by default, gives you the option of naming the first user account, with Administrator privileges. The root Administrator account is disabled by default.

So if the OP (Original Poster) is using the default administrator account (and has not enabled the root administrator account to use), he can do what I just did: Change the first user account from administrator to standard user. Before I did that, I changed one of my standard user accounts to administrator so I can easily change it back.

So, yes, you can change the first user account from administrator to standard user. Go to Control Panel, to User Accounts, then Manage another account and change it to a standard user account.

Please let me know if this is not correct?

Cheers!
Robert
For what it's worth, I think you're both correct, it's just that you're talking about different "root"/"first" admin accounts.

There's one administrator account which cannot be deleted or demoted (without really trying), and that's the one which is disabled by default. It's one of only a handful of "in-built" accounts whose RIDs (Relative IDentifiers - like a serial number) are "well known" and always the same on every system:

RID = 500: built-in admin
RID = 501: built-in guest
...
RID = 1000: the first user-created account (not built-in), irrespective of whether it's an admin or not.
RID = 1023: the 24th user-created account
...

Any accounts with RID>=1000 can be demoted or promoted at will, as long as the user carrying out the operation has permissions to do so. Only the built-in accounts are immutable.
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12 Nov 2009   #6
Kosta

Windows 7 Ultimate x64
 
 

I think the request of the original poster is rather simple:
RUN control userpasswords2
Properties on the Account you want to change, as long as it is not "Administrator" account, group membership, Standard User
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12 Nov 2009   #7
aem

Windows 7 Ultimate 64Bit
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by iseeuu View Post
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by aem View Post
You cannot demote your root admin account.
aem;

I am not sure I understand your post, hope you can clear it up for me?

Windows 7 install, by default, gives you the option of naming the first user account, with Administrator privileges. The root Administrator account is disabled by default.

So if the OP (Original Poster) is using the default administrator account (and has not enabled the root administrator account to use), he can do what I just did: Change the first user account from administrator to standard user. Before I did that, I changed one of my standard user accounts to administrator so I can easily change it back.

So, yes, you can change the first user account from administrator to standard user. Go to Control Panel, to User Accounts, then Manage another account and change it to a standard user account.

Please let me know if this is not correct?

Cheers!
Robert
As H2S04 said. That root admin account that was disabled by default can be added to other groups, but you cannot remove the Administrators group from it. Removing higher membership groups is demoting.

That first account created during the install even though it is an admin account is not the same as the root admin account. Not being a root admin account, you can add or remove groups to it.
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12 Nov 2009   #8
iseeuu

 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by aem View Post
As H2S04 said. That root admin account that was disabled by default can be added to other groups, but you cannot remove the Administrators group from it. Removing higher membership groups is demoting.

That first account created during the install even though it is an admin account is not the same as the root admin account. Not being a root admin account, you can add or remove groups to it.
Thanks! It sounds like we are all on the same page.

So the answer to the OP's question is he can change the Administrator account to a Standard User account as long as it is not the root Administrator account.

Cheers!
Robert
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13 Nov 2009   #9
jepherz

Windows 7
 
 

lol...wow...that was hard to follow...

I know what the root/hidden admin account is, and I'm not referring to that I gotta read through everything else slowly...

I changed my first account to admin before I started this thread. But the thing is, I don't have to get on my new admin account to change this account from standard back to admin, that option isn't grayed out for me. So I'm not sure if being able to switch freely like this would be a security issue =/ Is there a way to make it so I can't freely change back to admin?
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13 Nov 2009   #10
MacGyvr

Windows 7 Ultimate RTM (Technet)
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by jepherz View Post
lol...wow...that was hard to follow...

I know what the root/hidden admin account is, and I'm not referring to that I gotta read through everything else slowly...

I changed my first account to admin before I started this thread. But the thing is, I don't have to get on my new admin account to change this account from standard back to admin, that option isn't grayed out for me. So I'm not sure if being able to switch freely like this would be a security issue =/ Is there a way to make it so I can't freely change back to admin?
The original responder used terms that do not apply to Windows at all. There is no "root" anything in Windows...that is a Linux/Unix term.

The "Administrator" account cannot be changed without major hurdles. Any other user account can be changed back and forth from Admin to Standard at will. This answer didn't require nearly so much confusion.
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