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13 Nov 2009   #11
mcquicker

xp / win7
 
 

Since I posted the dmp file, the system has crashed 2 times. I don't overclock and I also have both panes on the desktop removed so the system can breath.

McQ


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13 Nov 2009   #12
mcquicker

xp / win7
 
 

These are the last 2 crashes. Interestingly enough, they are happening while trying to view videos on Utube.

I also installed a fan to cool the unit a little more, but as soon as I clicked on a HD video on Utube, the system crashed at the same time it sent out a piercing noise through my headphones.

Many thanks in advance!
McQ
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13 Nov 2009   #13
Frostmourne

Windows 7 Ultimate x86-64
 
 

Have you made sure the heatsink is attached to the cpu properly and there is adequate cooling? Also, you mentioned a SATA card - are you using this or a the mobo's controller? Try removing the card and any peripherals to rule out hardware after you check the cooling.
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13 Nov 2009   #14
mcquicker

xp / win7
 
 

I will connect the SATA drives to the mobo, instead of the Promise card. I'll do that first, then, the sound card.

McQ
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13 Nov 2009   #15
Frostmourne

Windows 7 Ultimate x86-64
 
 

Remove the cards, and enable onboard sound. Then reboot and update chipset and sound drivers. Reboot again to see if this helps with stability.
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13 Nov 2009   #16
gregrocker

 

Yes, the cards and all peripherals removed and then added back singly to rule them out.

But first check BIOS updates as this is common issue.

You should be in the Installation and Setup forum where the installers hang.
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14 Nov 2009   #17
mcquicker

xp / win7
 
 

First, I’d like to thank all those who offered advice and comments on my problem installing Win7.

As suggested, I cleaned the housing and the case of the CPU and there is not a speck of dust anywhere.

I also took out the Creative SB X-Fi card that I thought might be causing many of the crashes.

The results were as follows:

After cleaning the insides of the PC case, including a thorough dusting of the cooling unit, etc, and installing one additional internal fan, I managed to lower the mobo temp by almost 10 degrees, and the CPU by almost as much.

Present conditions:
CPU: +- 116 degrees (was running at 126)
MB: +- 89 degrees (was running at 100)

Win7 finally began to work as advertised, but now I had no sound card because the onboard sound system for the P4S800 DX MB do not work under Win7 or XP SP3.

In any case, I put the SB X-FI card back in, applied the last drivers available and the moment the PC was pushed... like in viewing HD material in Utube, it crashed.

So there it is. Unfortunately, at this time I have no money to spend on a sound card that works with Win7, and since XP is doing so well, I’ll wait until one of two things happen: I get a new sound card or Creative Labs decide to back up their sound cards with real workable drivers for Win7.

In the meantime, I guess I'll stick with XP, which so far continues doing great.

McQ
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14 Nov 2009   #18
torrentg

7600.20510 x86
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by mcquicker View Post
So there it is. Unfortunately, at this time I have no money to spend on a sound card that works with Win7, and since XP is doing so well, I’ll wait until one of two things happen: I get a new sound card or Creative Labs decide to back up their sound cards with real workable drivers for Win7.

In the meantime, I guess I'll stick with XP, which so far continues doing great.

McQ
Dude...nice work. You got TorrentG on your side here. Right click on the motherboard's (P4S800 DX MB) onboard audio device in device manager. Properties. Details tab. Change dropdown to hardware ids. Copy and paste the results here.

I'll either find or make a driver work for you.

If you want the SB card to work, search the net for "Daniel K." driver.
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14 Nov 2009   #19
mcquicker

xp / win7
 
 

Thanks for the offer, but I feel the issue is more than just the SB-XFi driver. I downloaded and installed the Daniel K. driver and it did nothing.

However, since all the crashes happen when I am trying to view something graphically complicated, like HD videos, and other videos in browsers, I have a feeling that the issue relates more to the graphic card, an Radeon 9600.

ATI has refused to put out drivers for this card and instead has posted a sham of a driver Catalyst which they originally put out for Vista.

What I will do is simply wait to get a new machine and I swear on everything precious to me that first, my graphic card WILL NOT be ATI or AMD, and my sound card WILL NEVER BE from Creative Labs.

Furthermore, I think it would be a good thing to post the names of those companies that have taken the trouble to address their clients concerns, by supporting the hardware they sold -graphic cards, sound cards, etc - so everyone that frequents these forums knows which companies take care of their clients and which company are out to fleece people.

Again,thanks for the offer and this time, I will not uninstall Win7 in case a miracle should happen and the drivers for these items become available.

McQ
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14 Nov 2009   #20
torrentg

7600.20510 x86
 
 

I wouldn't put down ATI in this case. The 9600 is ancient (from ~ early 2003) and it does have a Vista driver that works beautifully under 7.

Creative on the other hand, not so well.

If the Daniel K. driver did nothing though, you probably didn't install it well. Or perhaps your particular id string is missing from the installer .inf. Simple to fix.
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