Microsoft Really Getting Sneaky On Windows 10

scr said:

It would have been nice if MS put something in W-10 that interested me enough to give up an extremely stable win7 install. I am quite content and see no reason to go through the learning curve along with possible instability, driver search, large updates and compatibility problems. All the while basically beta testing 10. I won't even go in to the rest of the issues with W-10 as it has all been said.


Like Layback Bear, If and when "I" want to go to W-10 I will. Until then MS can quit trying to force it on me. I have had Windows Updates off for as long as I can remember and do them manually at a time when it's convent for me. The harder MS pushes the harder I will resist.

Actually, I am a surprised on the compatibility problem, when 10 was in beta stage didn't Microsoft say all windows 7 software/programs would work on windows 10? That is not quite accurate.

Lady Fitzgerald said:

MeOnMine said:

M$ would have had a far better chance of achieving their goals with Win X if 2 two things were not attempted.
1. one billion machines through Update, how many people have gone back to their old OS because of instability, an ISO release would have helped there.
2. Telemetry and spyware inclusion in Win X
(3. no WMC) that's another killer for me.

4. Forced updates
5. Loss of Gadgets

You can install 8 gadget pack (You might need to reinstall it again after a new release)

groze said:

Actually, I am a surprised on the compatibility problem, when 10 was in beta stage didn't Microsoft say all windows 7 software/programs would work on windows 10? That is not quite accurate.

Maybe they said so, but in practice there is no way to ensure that every imaginable software runs in a newer OS. I know Windows 10 is just a tiny update over Windows 8 and that is in turn just a minor update over Windows 7, so most software is expected to run flawlessly, but others might fail.
Consider how many programs are poorly developed, relyng on OS bugs that, being fixed, break them. Or just software that doesn't conforms to the specification MS publishes. Or expects one specific OS version and fails to adapt to any other one. Or MS errors and regression bugs in Windows itself.

Microsoft has been always careful with backwards compatibility, to the point that Windows keeps the very same API intact since Windows 1 up to Windows 10. But from time to time breaking changes can and do ocurr, plus bad development practices on third party software plus expectable bugs here and there make that impossible to assure.

It makes an excellent marketing line to say so (nobody would put in an advertisement that "an upgrade might break some of your software"), but it's not true in practice. We must still test all current software to ensure it works as intended, or be ready to update or replace the few that do not.

I am not talking about what Microsoft provides. I am talking what a 3rd party provides. I am using 17.0 gadget by Helmut Buhler. I found some neat tools after updating. I think I will install this on windows 7 as well. I use that more because I am still leery of using windows 10. Some of those gadgets he provides may not work. I couldn't figure out how to get the youtube gadget to work on windows 10. I will try it on windows 7 and see if I have the same problem. You will notice the arrow, When I hit print screen the network came alive. I even use the maximum privacy tweaks for windows 10 even the one that unofficially turns off telemetry. I will compare that with windows 7. I do have location partially turned on for a couple of apps. The most used is inaccurate.

If you go on the Windows 10 forum there are people there that think Windows 10 is the greatest thing
since sliced bread and they claim they are experienced.
It's like in politics, most people either don't care to do any investigation or accept the propaganda
in the press.
I would guess the new guy in Microsoft is no better than the last one.
Microsoft needs some SERIOUS competition. Not Linux with (what's your distro today crap).
Seems like a good job for someone like Google.
They'll have to sabotage Windows 7 and I wouldn't put it past them, to get me to change.
Competition is a great thing!!!!!!!