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Windows 7: Protected system fonts

03 Jan 2010   #11
logicearth

Windows 10 Pro (x64)
 
 

Just to point out Fonts that are faded, are not loaded and thus are not consuming anything but HDD space (they still consume HDD space even when deleted.) Versus previous versions of Windows, 7 has builtin font management capabilities.


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05 Jan 2010   #12
faithless

Windows 7
 
 

Except that they show up and consume space in software drop-down font menus - Outlook 2007, for instance, and Microsoft can have no excuse for that - clogging up the space and compelling the user to scroll up and down more than necessary. I can assure you that the fonts show up as faded in the Font folder and yet still turn up as an option for text formatting in emails.

Why do Microsoft make it so difficult for someone in England to delete, e.g., Korean fonts which are never going to be used?

The only reason for keeping them, so far as I can see, is in case they are needed to display a web page. But if I see a Google entry with Korean characters, I do exactly the same as I would if it simply displayed gobbledygook - I ignore it.

Even though I deleted some 36 protected fonts, there are a further dozen or so which I cannot delete even by taking ownership and granting myself full permissions. Batang, for example, and MingLiu.

Just one more instance of Microsoft making decisions that cause needless frustration, and never giving - if there is one - a rationale for the decision.
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10 Jan 2010   #13
tbernstein

 
 

Precisely.
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11 Jan 2010   #14
rsvr85

Windows 7 Ultimate x64
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by faithless View Post
Except that they show up and consume space in software drop-down font menus - Outlook 2007, for instance, and Microsoft can have no excuse for that - clogging up the space and compelling the user to scroll up and down more than necessary. I can assure you that the fonts show up as faded in the Font folder and yet still turn up as an option for text formatting in emails.

Why do Microsoft make it so difficult for someone in England to delete, e.g., Korean fonts which are never going to be used?

The only reason for keeping them, so far as I can see, is in case they are needed to display a web page. But if I see a Google entry with Korean characters, I do exactly the same as I would if it simply displayed gobbledygook - I ignore it.

Even though I deleted some 36 protected fonts, there are a further dozen or so which I cannot delete even by taking ownership and granting myself full permissions. Batang, for example, and MingLiu.

Just one more instance of Microsoft making decisions that cause needless frustration, and never giving - if there is one - a rationale for the decision.
I can't seem to delete Batang either, the fact they're this well protected says that it'd be unwise to delete them. Have you actually previewed Batang, it's not Chinese characters at all, Windows must use them for something specific. If you really must delete them (which i doubt you do) do as suggested above and boot off an Ubuntu Live-CD and do the job. Beware however, that you may boot into a messed up Windows!
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13 Jan 2010   #15
faithless

Windows 7
 
 

Batang is a foreign character set. If you look at the font details provided in the C:/windows/fonts folder, it will tell you that the Font Foundry is Han Yang I & C Co. Ltd and that it is 'Designed for' "Korean".

So, I repeat the question. Why is it so insistently imperative that I MUST have - at 31Mb hard disk usage and large entries in all drop-down font menus - the ability to show Korean text on my computer? I don't have the ability to switch it off; nowhere so far as I have found does Microsoft trouble to tell me WHY it must remain available at all times, whatever my wishes might be. It's just another Mysterious Microsoft fait accompli.

It's totally ridiculous that obtaining and then using a boot disk for an entirely different operating system should be proposed as anything approaching a reasonable workaround (though I thank those who have made the suggestion).
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14 Jan 2010   #16
tbernstein

 
 

And apart from the irritation of having to waste time skimming through these when I'm deciding which font to use, there's the principle involved. On my computer Microsoft, for no good purpose, have added a slab of unwanted and unneeded data, which they have locked onto my setup against my will.
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02 Feb 2010   #17
Mill3407

Windows 7
 
 

In the registry:

HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows NT\CurrentVersion\FontLink\SystemLink

are all the fonts we can't delete. Has anyone tried deleting Batang et al. in the registry?
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24 Feb 2010   #18
cretaceous

xp/vista/win7
 
 

I am another who wants 100% control on my computer and I want to delete forever all foreign fonts - they show up in too many application menus

come on Microsoft sort it out

I have even used Adobe Illustrator in Thai.. when in Thailand

do i want Thai or Chinese on my pc?
NO NEVER
you need a localised keyboard for starters

isnt there a reg-edit solution?
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07 Mar 2010   #19
Nil Einne

Windows Vista
 
 

I presume those so worked up about this have at least told Windows to hide fonts based on language settings right?

Incidentally, I presume you are aware that the 31mb or whatever of unneeded data pales in comparison to the countless of drivers, services etc that you'll never use and those complaining about this 31mb of wasted hard disk space have made sure to delete all this unneeded data before worrying about 31mb
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08 Mar 2010   #20
cretaceous

xp/vista/win7
 
 

Nil Einne - are you being a troll?
have you read the rest of this thread?

it's seeing the unwanted fonts appear in other program menus that is annoying

I'm a professional designer, I don't want to see fonts I have not installed in my menus
I couldn't care less about the disk space

Microsoft make too many decisions on what they think is "best" and take control away from the user
- this font issue appears to be driven by a poor bit of programming logic

other changes are driven by "hey guys this is new, nobody else does it like this, lets change it and lets ignore the users - they don't matter - we're designing softaware for the 21st century - they're just retards "
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