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Windows 7: Starts in Safe Not in Normal

26 Sep 2016   #1

windows 7 32 & 64 B
Starts in Safe Not in Normal

What's the difference between Safe Boot and Normal?
I used sysconfig to turn off everything that wasn't running in Safe. Normal (selective) boot still bombs.
Computer is a used Optiplex. Came with Xp. I added w7 home premium 32 [a year ago] and w7 home premium 64 this summer. Been Stable in '64 for two months. That's 3 partitions total.
Subsequent to an acronis restore that failed, my W7 boots have been problematic. Xp works fine. But both w7 partitions will launch in Safe but yeild a blue red or green screen on "normal boot". Soon as I key in the password. I always assumed that some of the "Apperance" items in W7 drove my video card nuts. As soon as I used Norton 16 adjusted for "best performance" [ makes it look like classic windows with a square start box ] the problem went away.

Current strategy: Disable everything I can till it starts and then add services back in till I find the culprit.
Prior posts on "boots safe but" topic contain warnings as to age[1700 days..]. I've done system repair, boot fixes from neosmart, spotmau, and the partition activator. Since the data is "there" I believe this is a video conflict.

So if anyone knows how to do Selective Startup with only Safe Mode Components...I would like to know.
Could be I need a wiped disk and a scratch install, starting with W7 and adding the xp partition later.
Apologies if this post is in the wrong place.
-wbajr tbc

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26 Sep 2016   #2

Desk1 7 Home Prem / Desk2 10 Pro / Main lap Asus ROG 10 Pro 2 laptop Toshiba 7 Pro Asus P2520 7 & 10

Wes in a nutshell safe mode only loads the essential Windows files as opposed to loading the whole sheebang.

Probably worth a try with system restore back to a point before you changed the rules
System Restore

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26 Sep 2016   #3

Windows 7 Pro x64 Windows 10 Pro x64

Welcome to Seven Forums

Sounds like a fresh install is in order.

Why 32 and 64 bit ?

Why XP ?
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26 Sep 2016   #4

Win-7-Pro64bit 7-H-Prem-64bit

Hi and welcome to SevenForums,
Click Start and type in the search box
system information
Click on the suggestion or hit the enter key

You should land on the system summery page
On the top left go to edit and Select all
Then Edit again and Copy

Open a reply here and right click and Paste.

Repeat for Components/ Display listing on the left column.
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26 Sep 2016   #5

Desk1 7 Home Prem / Desk2 10 Pro / Main lap Asus ROG 10 Pro 2 laptop Toshiba 7 Pro Asus P2520 7 & 10

If you are watching did you try the system restore?? plus if you are going to do a clean install you should have a factory restore partition on that machine but make sure your data is backed up first because it will all go programs the lot as it takes the machine back to when it came out of the factory.
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29 Sep 2016   #6

windows 7 32 & 64 B

Thanks for the replies and the resources. The Question I asked ( compare Safe with Normal ) was a bit silly but honest. If I don't get a flashing screen in safe, why can't I disable all but "safe" services and then add back? Well the resources have exposed me to a lot that I don't know. The difference Acronis makes between "Logical" and "Primary" on bringing back a partition. Why 3 partitions? I was developing Excel Macros at home as Work transitioned from "NT" to System 7 and from Excel XP to Excel 10. The 64 bit W7 was added "just to see if it would run " on the ol'e Optiplex. [ 4 gig of memory and room for more]. System Restore is out of the question because the disk has been wiped. My primary Pc is a Lenovo Lap the Optiplex is used primarily for the large monitor attached when dealing with VBA and Spreadsheet at the same time. Will try a few more things and then a "Scratch Install" [ getting efficient at Scratch...].
Again: thanks for all the leads and resources.
-wbajr tbc
If I come up with a solution before Scratch: I'll post what it was and perhaps save some one some time.
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07 Oct 2016   #7

windows 7 32 & 64 B

Footnote: The Solution was a new computer [Optiplex 755 replaces Optiplex 745] There were 2 issues: Bad Mother Board and Failure to Read. None of the Dell Diagnostics picked up the MB problem. ( 3 bad caps ) The system was stable enough to Boot Safe. That's all. Refreshing the drive with Acronis validated images could not solve the problem. Symptom: System would shut down but never do a shut down - restart cycle. The screen would go black, the fan took off and punch button force quit was the only recourse. In the new environment, the restored drive would still only "safe boot". Reading the instructions for Acronis Universal Restore brought instant relief. On the new computer: Windows disk repair, Spotmau, and even EZ Re could not get the restored image to work. (no slight on the makers of EZ Re, I'm not sophisticated enough to use any of the tools other than "automatic repair". In the "new environment": Acronis Squawked till I could get "On line" Windows Activated On Line: Office 10 did not. That took Phone activation but was otherwise painless.
Again: Thanks for all the Leads
-wbajr tbc
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08 Oct 2016   #8
Layback Bear

Windows 7 Pro. 64/SP-1

Just a thought.

I recommend taking a serious look at Macrium Reflect. (Free or Paid for).

Macrium Reflect Free

Macrium Software
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08 Oct 2016   #9

Desk1 7 Home Prem / Desk2 10 Pro / Main lap Asus ROG 10 Pro 2 laptop Toshiba 7 Pro Asus P2520 7 & 10

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Layback Bear View Post
Just a thought.

I recommend taking a serious look at Macrium Reflect. (Free or Paid for).

Macrium Reflect Free

Macrium Software
I've tried a few of those softwares now and Macrium really is the deal
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