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Windows 7: windows 7 or 10 ?

04 Dec 2016   #41
MoxieMomma

OEM Windows 7 Ult (x64) SP1
 
 

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Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by MoxieMomma View Post
Hi:

AFAIK, availability of NEW OEM Win7 computers (even for Enterprise) ended in October.
Anything you find now will likely be "refurbished" or "used".
"CAVEAT EMPTOR" in that regard...

MM
Actually, not true in the real world anyway. But it may vary by vendor.

You can buy new Lenovo Thinkpad P50/P70 right now today with Win7 Pro pre-installed through Win10 Pro downgrade rights. You can also then get the Win10 recovery install media, if you want to "do it yourself" and add a second bootable Windows after-the-fact.

These are brand new Skylake laptops with Intel i7-6700HQ, i7-6820HQ, Xeon E3-1505M or Xeon E3-1575M processors, and up to 64GB of non-ECC or ECC (with Xeon CPU) DDR4 PC4-2133Mhz or PC4-2400Mhz memory. 1xSATA3 2.5"HDD/SSD and/or 2xM.2 SATA3 SSD or 2xM.2 NVMe SSD.

All hardware in the machine is 100% supported with Win7/Win10 drivers provided and pre-installed by Lenovo.

These are not "used/refurbs".
I'm sure there may still be a few floating around, but:

OEMs to stop selling PCs with Windows 7 by October 31, 2016 | Ars Technica
Microsoft ends Windows 7 Pro reprieve on new PCs | Computerworld
Microsoft gives OEMs a deadline: No more new Windows 7 PCs in one year | ZDNet

Cheers,
MM


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04 Dec 2016   #42
ICIT2LOL

Desk1 7 Home Prem / Desk2 10 Pro / Main lap Asus ROG 10 Pro 2 laptop Toshiba 7 Pro Asus P2520 7 & 10
 
 

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I was thinking; If MS gets rid of CP, where are they going to "stuff" everything that's in there now? Imagine the paths getting to the view tab in folder options.... The tutorials will be glorious!
Hmm I am thinking what a job that would be for Shawn if that was to be broken down into the different bits and pieces - cannot see any reason for even thinking about that and smacks of them trying to hide as much stuff as they can. I know in 10 I do find it a tad annoying that I have to attach it and This PC to my start menu along with pics and docs command prompt etc etc

As for McAfee I don't really care who owns it it is something I would never have on my machine - smacks of Intel becoming rather overly arrogant in a way.

I shall have to check out that Lubuntu Megahertz mentions too as I said I have tried Linux and Ubuntu but the interface spoils both a bit.

Now as for 7 ending as MM says well they had better get the driver situation fixed and real quick because on my Asus G750JM I can only access drivers for the BIOS Utilities and the manual whereas when I was running 7 Pro on it there was plethora of drivers.

All in all the 10 debate seems to me to have got a little better insomuch 10 has improved a bit and then along comes all this new stuff re the CP etc Being a tad cynical I am left wondering what Microsoft actually wants to sell
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05 Dec 2016   #43
AddRAM

Windows 7 Pro x64 Windows 10 Pro x64
 
 

Have you looked at Zorin yet John ?

I may have asked you before

Download - Zorin OS
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05 Dec 2016   #44
ThrashZone

Win-7-Pro64bit 7-H-Prem-64bit
 
 

Hi,
It fairly easy MS wants to sell users usage data
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05 Dec 2016   #45
Anak

Microsoft Community Contributor Award Recipient

Win 7 Home Premium 64bit Ver 6.1.7600 Build 7601 - SP1
 
 

I've also noticed the change in how "placements" are handled, I'm planning on removing McAfee and replacing it with Avira by the end of the day.

Transitions; Too many times have I seen a project fail because the support structure wasn't in place, the scarcity of drivers should have never been a problem in the first place, certain businesses always seem to put the cart before the horse.

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by AddRAM View Post
Have you looked at Zorin yet John ?

I may have asked you before

Download - Zorin OS
Here's a tutorial by whs: VMware Player - Install and Setup Zorin
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05 Dec 2016   #46
AddRAM

Windows 7 Pro x64 Windows 10 Pro x64
 
 

Simpler just to try it first before setting up a VM, no harm no foul


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05 Dec 2016   #47
DavidE

Multi-Boot W7_Pro_x64 W8.1_Pro_x64 W10_Pro_x64
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Anak View Post
I'm planning on removing McAfee and replacing it with Avira by the end of the day.
If you're going with Avira free, be aware they have 2 versions.
The Avira Free Antivirus, and the Avira Free Security Suite.
The Avira Free Security Suite auto installs 2 additional programs.
I recently tried the Security Suite and didn't like it, i went back to the basic free version.
I couldn't figure out how to keep the System Speedup program from auto running.
I just want a basic AV, no add-ons.

You can read more about it here, and get the download you prefer.
Free Downloads of Avira Antivirus Software & Utilities
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05 Dec 2016   #48
Anak

Microsoft Community Contributor Award Recipient

Win 7 Home Premium 64bit Ver 6.1.7600 Build 7601 - SP1
 
 

Okay AR, I didn't know about that option.

Thanks for the info Dave, I believe I'm going with the basic free.
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05 Dec 2016   #49
ICIT2LOL

Desk1 7 Home Prem / Desk2 10 Pro / Main lap Asus ROG 10 Pro 2 laptop Toshiba 7 Pro Asus P2520 7 & 10
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Anak View Post
Okay AR, I didn't know about that option.

Thanks for the info Dave, I believe I'm going with the basic free.
Yes Steve there are few options in here the real time section Free Windows Desktop Software Security List | Gizmo's Freeware forgetting the AVG McAfee and Comodo (terrible nagger)

Brian might take a look at the Zorin the Lubuntu took a very long time to download for something that was less than a GB.

What I am going to do is to install both onto a spare drive - one at a time just to see what the go is
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06 Dec 2016   #50
AddRAM

Windows 7 Pro x64 Windows 10 Pro x64
 
 

You will like Zorin over Lubuntu, Ubuntu etc, it has a bit more of a Windows feel to it.

9 is an older version but here`s an article.

10 reasons to try Zorin OS 9, the Linux OS that looks like Windows | PCWorld

Zorin OS : An Ultimate Linux Desktop Designed for Windows XP and 7 Users

Download - Zorin OS

Core is Free, Ultimate is not.

But it looks like Ultimate is 19 Euro, not bad at all


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