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01 Feb 2017   #51
RolandJS

Windows 7 Professional 64-bit
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by bigmck View Post
When you install Windows, it will only affect C: drive, nothing else.
...as long as no other internal HD exists and/or no other external HD is plugged in, according to scuttlebutt.


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01 Feb 2017   #52
Callender

Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit 7601 Multiprocessor Free Service Pack 1
 
 

I posted in this thread just to help out with creating a Windows 7 USB installer. I'm not expert on reinstalling as I've always preferred to wipe the drive and create a new partiton to install windows onto when clean installing.

You might want to look at the tutorial here:

Custom Install Windows 7

In theory you can choose the partition to install windows onto.

However I'd assume that the installer detects your existing installation and overwrites it keeping other partitons intact but that's a huge assumption beacause I don't really know if it is the case.

RE: Recovery Partition. That just reinstalls windows and makes your computer like it was when you first purchased it along with any programs and drivers that were pre-installed.
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01 Feb 2017   #53
ICIT2LOL

Desk1 7 Home Prem / Desk2 10 Pro / Main lap Asus ROG 10 Pro 2 laptop Toshiba 7 Pro Asus P2520 7 & 10
 
 

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I've always preferred to wipe the drive and create a new partiton to install windows onto when clean installing.
Yes well just for the record I always clean the drive with the DISKPART or the wipe function in Partition Wizard it does take time to do but it certainly does avid any remnants of previous installs one the drive. But I am a bit pedantic with this sort of stuff. I don't necessarily create a dedicated partition - just making the whole drive accessible for the OS and let Windows do it's own thing.
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03 Feb 2017   #54
Judiver

Windows 7 Home Premium x64
 
 

Thank you all for reacting. I haven't gotten back to you as I was checking problems that may not be related to Windows and may still be there after a reinstall. So I want to get rid of those first.

I will most likely opt for a clean install instead of back to factory settings (although that phrase in the manual about not being able the set up my computer if I use a 3rd party partitioning program still bothers me - I am not quite sure how to interpret it).

Roland, I don't understand your comment. I have a c (named Windows) and d drive (named Data). So I suppose I have 2 HDD, but the manual speaks about "a portion of the total hard disk drive space is configured as a hidden recovery partition"? So Toshiba treats c and d as 1 HDD. What makes a drive a HD? I'm confused.

Judith
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04 Feb 2017   #55
bigmck

Windows 7 Home Premium 32-Bit - Build 7600 SP1
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Judiver View Post
Thank you all for reacting. I haven't gotten back to you as I was checking problems that may not be related to Windows and may still be there after a reinstall. So I want to get rid of those first.

I will most likely opt for a clean install instead of back to factory settings (although that phrase in the manual about not being able the set up my computer if I use a 3rd party partitioning program still bothers me - I am not quite sure how to interpret it).

Roland, I don't understand your comment. I have a c (named Windows) and d drive (named Data). So I suppose I have 2 HDD, but the manual speaks about "a portion of the total hard disk drive space is configured as a hidden recovery partition"? So Toshiba treats c and d as 1 HDD. What makes a drive a HD? I'm confused.

Judith
A Hard Drive Disk (HDD) is the physical piece that goes in your computer. It can be divided into partitions (parts) so that Drive C and D are on one HDD.
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04 Feb 2017   #56
ICIT2LOL

Desk1 7 Home Prem / Desk2 10 Pro / Main lap Asus ROG 10 Pro 2 laptop Toshiba 7 Pro Asus P2520 7 & 10
 
 

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So Toshiba treats c and d as 1 HDD. What makes a drive a HD? I'm confused.
Hmm that looks like it is made for confusion Judith and I think especially as Toshiba when it installs the Windows OS does at the same time include an awful lot of their own bloatware which would be included in that recovery partition. After having a few Toshibas I do like I think I mentioned before and that is to clean install Windows onto a new drive and an SSD at that. That way yo avoid all the crap they put on although there are some of the rubbish installs via Windows updates - I just ignore that stuff.
Now the clean install only needs the ISO download and the activation code that is on the sticker on that particular machine. The only thing is that you will have to do the updates and reinstall your programs - the data can just be transferred via a stick for example or by using a SATA to USB adaptor to hook the old drive up to the machine or a USB dock. There are other ways of getting the important data back if you preferred.

Now the updates I read here Four steps to reduce the pain of Windows 7 installations using cumulative updates - Tech Pro Research the other day there are packages that minimise the amount of time it takes to do the updates. I have not tried this method yet so cannot comment on how good this way is but the authour is a well known IT person.

The ISO was linked earlier on but having raved on about all that it is your choice it is just my own personal preference to do it like this.
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04 Feb 2017   #57
Judiver

Windows 7 Home Premium x64
 
 

Hi Bigmck and Icit2lol,

Indeed I am confused. I feel I don't understand the basic definitions. Hard disk drive, hard drive, drive, partitions etc. It seems to me they are used arbitrarily, in each other's place. In any case the naming is not not very distinctive to start with, it leads to confusion.

I didn't have much time today but I want to try to understand why my manual says "If you use a third-party partitioning program to configure the partitions on your hard disk drive (which I would if I would do a clean reinstall), you may find that it becomes impossible to setup your computer. I want to be sure I can do this clean reinstall and setup my computer. If I'm not totally sure I can do that, I'll go by the Toshiba recovery install, despite all the bloatware that comes with it. I'm not sure if there is much of that. And I could always uninstall items if I don't want them.

I had a look at my disk management:
Disk 0 465.76 GB
- 400MB (Active, Recovery Partition)
c: Windows 232.88GB (Boot, Crash Dump, Primary Partition)
d: Data 232.49GB (Primary Partition)
CD-ROM 0 e: DVD

So, 1 hard disk drive, divided in 3 partitions, a portion with no letter assigned (400MB), a c drive and a d drive, and extra (external to HDD) storage on drive e: for CD/DVD (and 2 USB ports for sticks or other devices).

So what in this configuration is my hard drive?

And why would I not be able to setup my computer again if I configure the whole HDD? If all that is on this HDD is erased and overwritten (i.e. 465.76GB clean without any partitioning or allocation and then repartitioned), it seems logical to me I would be able to setup my computer, as all that Toshiba ever did on this pc would be gone (including all personal data on c and d). Or is this supposition wrong and my understanding of how a clean install would work not correct?

I went through the sevenforums tutorial of a clean install was wondering if you can just keep the existing partitioning. It says "Select a hard drive or partition that you want to do a clean install of Windows 7 on, do what Drive options (advanced) you want if any and click next". And then it explains you can get rid of existing partitions to get only partition, and how to shrink existing partitions. How would I have to operate to have (or keep) a c: and d: of about 230GB, plus the 100MB System Reserved (for Boot Manager Code and etc.)?

Icit2lol, I do not know what ASAT is, I intend to just use my sticks to put my data back on my laptop. May take a while, but that's not a big issue. Your link will be useful if I will do a clean install. Thanks.

I'm probably boring you experts with my beginner's questions... and I am grateful for your interest and time. This is one learning experience for me. I've been doing a lot of reading on the internet as well, discovering things. When I finally (sic!) will have installed (or recovered) Windows, and it works, I will have passed the beginner's exam, in my eyes anyway...

Judith
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04 Feb 2017   #58
ICIT2LOL

Desk1 7 Home Prem / Desk2 10 Pro / Main lap Asus ROG 10 Pro 2 laptop Toshiba 7 Pro Asus P2520 7 & 10
 
 

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Icit2lol, I do not know what ASAT is, I intend to just use my sticks to put my data back on my laptop. May take a while, but that's not a big issue. Your link will be useful if I will do a clean install. Thanks.
Now do you mean what I posted about the SATA to USB adaptor? because that is jut a way you can hook up say your OS drive to another machine and then do what you want to do and that could be anything from running a test on it to cleaning it to retrieving data. see pic it is of a very basic one but you may get the idea of how this works. I also like a dock and that is a block design that you plug the drive into and then just run the USB connector to the machine you are using.

Now of course go with what you are comfortable with and don't think you are boring us it is all part of the forum
John


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05 Feb 2017   #59
bigmck

Windows 7 Home Premium 32-Bit - Build 7600 SP1
 
 

If you are doing a Clean Install, you don't really need to worry about making Partitions as you will just put Windows on the C: where it is now. You will still have a C: and a D: as they are now. If you have your Product Key (sticker on your PC with 25-characters) and a ISO of Windows 7, that is all you need for your Clean Install. If you have another way to contact us, we can assist if you get to a point where you are stuck doing it. Installing Windows is pretty easy. Once you start it, it just goes and will restart the computer a couple times. You don't have to do a whole lot. == When you got your present Internet Connection, did you have any disk to install anything? If you did, you might need that to get the Internet going. It is not always a problem though. If you have another way to get in contact with Seven Forums, then we can guide you along with the Clean Install.
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05 Feb 2017   #60
ICIT2LOL

Desk1 7 Home Prem / Desk2 10 Pro / Main lap Asus ROG 10 Pro 2 laptop Toshiba 7 Pro Asus P2520 7 & 10
 
 

I agree with Bigmck and also links for an ISO (genuine Microsoft ones) are available in case you do not have any installation media, and you only need the activation code off the sticker on your computer.

Now what I always do is download some of the drivers for a machine especially the LAN (Ethernet connection) and WLAN (wifi connection) as I find very often Windows will not install those with the installation. They are vital for any hook up to the net obviously and the method I use is to copy them to a USB stick and install them to the computer via it. The rest if any need updating can then be done from the net, along with a security suite - I alwasy make that a priority before much else
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