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Windows 7: Who's taking ownership

10 Feb 2017   #1
Chuck P 1613

Windows 7 Home Premium 32 bit
 
 
Who's taking ownership

3 part question.
1 Why do I need to "take ownership" of files after I download them?
2 Who or what is taking ownership of my files?
3 Can that entity be removed?

I am the only user of this machine and not on any network. I can download a video and after a day or two it won't open until I take ownership of it. It will play just fine the first couple times and then it locks me out. This happens for e-books, video, pdfs and most other files except exes.


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11 Feb 2017   #2
Lance1

Windows 7 Ultimate, Service Pack 1, 64 bit
 
 

Hi Chuck P 1613 and welcome to W7F. Post the owners name that is taking over. Post a screenshot please so we can see. Here's how Screenshots and Files - Upload and Post in Seven Forums

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11 Feb 2017   #3
Barman58

Windows 10 Pro x64 x3, Ubuntu
 
 

The use of permissions is there for your own protection, not from another person per se, but from potential malware that gets onto your system as any malware takes on the access rights of the user active at the time of infection. Although you are an administrator of your system you do not run with the full rights all the time, but as a standard user until you elevate the rights to full admin level.

Due to these safety restrictions you can see the issues that you describe, you should not see any of these issues when saving files to the users folders, pictures, documents, music, videos etc. which are set to give your user full control. If you wish to save into other folders you need to right click on the folder choose security and manually add full control to your specific user name, this will also cascade down to any folders under the initial folder. this is a better and more secure method that taking ownership as ownership can alter the way that windows operates.

There is also another issue that can arise with downloaded item, if these are downloaded from an area of the net that is not considered totally safe, ( basically anywhere outside your LAN / PC), especially with Microsoft browsers, a file will be marked as suspect, right click on the file and choose properties and you will see a button marked [Unblock], click this to allow access in future.
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11 Feb 2017   #4
RoWin7

Win 7 Ultimate 64-bit
 
 

I've been following this because I'm new to Win7, and trying to be frenemies with UAC. I've added "Take ownership" into my right-click menu, but I don't have "Take full control."
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11 Feb 2017   #5
RolandJS

Windows 7 Professional 64-bit
 
 

I got this from The 'Net, I have no idea who the author is:

Windows Registry Editor Version 5.00

[HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\*\shell\runas]
@="Grant Admin Full Control"
"NoWorkingDirectory"=""

[HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\*\shell\runas\command]
@="cmd.exe /c takeown /f \"%1\" && icacls \"%1\" /grant administrators:F"
"IsolatedCommand"="cmd.exe /c takeown /f \"%1\" && icacls \"%1\" /grant administrators:F"

[HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\exefile\shell\runas2]
@="Grant Admin Full Control"
"NoWorkingDirectory"=""

[HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\exefile\shell\runas2\command]
@="cmd.exe /c takeown /f \"%1\" && icacls \"%1\" /grant administrators:F"
"IsolatedCommand"="cmd.exe /c takeown /f \"%1\" && icacls \"%1\" /grant administrators:F"

[HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\Directory\shell\runas]
@="Grant Admin Full Control"
"NoWorkingDirectory"=""

[HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\Directory\shell\runas\command]
@="cmd.exe /c takeown /f \"%1\" /r /d y && icacls \"%1\" /grant administrators:F /t"
"IsolatedCommand"="cmd.exe /c takeown /f \"%1\" /r /d y && icacls \"%1\" /grant administrators:F /t"

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Using notepad or any text file creator, copy and past the above into a text file, and then ren TXT to REG, and [double][click] on it.
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11 Feb 2017   #6
RoWin7

Win 7 Ultimate 64-bit
 
 

So that puts the "Take Full Control" into your context menu. Is it a danger to your security to use that? And you don't know who wrote it or if it won't screw up the registry, after backup of course.
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11 Feb 2017   #7
RoWin7

Win 7 Ultimate 64-bit
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Lance1 View Post
Hi Chuck P 1613 and welcome to W7F. Post the owners name that is taking over. Post a screenshot please so we can see. Here's how Screenshots and Files - Upload and Post in Seven Forums

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That Security screen looks familiar, from XP, but I'm not sure how to get there.
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11 Feb 2017   #8
Lance1

Windows 7 Ultimate, Service Pack 1, 64 bit
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by RolandJS View Post
I got this from The 'Net, I have no idea who the author is:

Windows Registry Editor Version 5.00

[HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\*\shell\runas]
@="Grant Admin Full Control"
"NoWorkingDirectory"=""

[HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\*\shell\runas\command]
@="cmd.exe /c takeown /f \"%1\" && icacls \"%1\" /grant administrators:F"
"IsolatedCommand"="cmd.exe /c takeown /f \"%1\" && icacls \"%1\" /grant administrators:F"

[HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\exefile\shell\runas2]
@="Grant Admin Full Control"
"NoWorkingDirectory"=""

[HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\exefile\shell\runas2\command]
@="cmd.exe /c takeown /f \"%1\" && icacls \"%1\" /grant administrators:F"
"IsolatedCommand"="cmd.exe /c takeown /f \"%1\" && icacls \"%1\" /grant administrators:F"

[HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\Directory\shell\runas]
@="Grant Admin Full Control"
"NoWorkingDirectory"=""

[HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\Directory\shell\runas\command]
@="cmd.exe /c takeown /f \"%1\" /r /d y && icacls \"%1\" /grant administrators:F /t"
"IsolatedCommand"="cmd.exe /c takeown /f \"%1\" /r /d y && icacls \"%1\" /grant administrators:F /t"

--------------------------------------------
Using notepad or any text file creator, copy and past the above into a text file, and then ren TXT to REG, and [double][click] on it.
Roland! Does this give you Full Control over the C:\ Root? (@="cmd.exe /c takeown /f)
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11 Feb 2017   #9
Lance1

Windows 7 Ultimate, Service Pack 1, 64 bit
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by RoWin7 View Post
That Security screen looks familiar, from XP, but I'm not sure how to get there.
Are you referring to my post #2
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11 Feb 2017   #10
RoWin7

Win 7 Ultimate 64-bit
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Lance1 View Post
Are you referring to my post #2
Yes. I like that the list is more than just all "yes" or all "no." But I've forgotten how to get there.
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