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Windows 7: Computer is shutting down randomly

01 Sep 2017   #71
amoretam

Windows 7 x64bit Home Premium
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by ICIT2LOL View Post
Yes mate look I truly can understand your frustration - but you say starting from scratch nothing works as soon as you start a bare bons set up and yes that is suggestive of a board issue. All I am saying is that even if you found a replacement board if you stuck all that gear back on and it still will not go then you have done your dough.

I look at it like this you have a car now the engine is tuned and running, the transmission is fine, the final drive is great, the wheels and tyres all perfect, the doors all open and shut , the steering is spot on but if the brakes are shot you cannot driver what is in all likelihood a very nice car.

So with your machine getting for the sake of getting machines individual components tested out it means a complete rebuild.

I don't know if a techie store could test up that board you have a good one should) but it is getting on though having said that my Sandy is alive and well and eating 10 for breakfast.

Now I have been looking around to replace my Ivy B with a Skylake set up as it seems that any Kabylake stuff is not 7 compatible and the parts unless you want a really high end set up for gaming or graphical use then you are going to need a mortgage. On the other hand if all you want is a general use everyday machine then you are still going to be up for a considerable amount of money over and above what you paid for the Sandy. Prices and availability (out here at least) are eye wateringly awful and form my usual vendors hard to get anything approaching what I can afford. In the US of course you have much more choice and outlets and the prices are by comparison to us a steal but again I know you are between a rock and hard place and I fully sympathise with you but that is what I would be doing before I bin the board and possibly the lot.
Thanks a lot for the sympathy, This is a build used for music making.
That is why I have been so insistent, I do not want to install all the plugins and software etc I once installed for several days.
This is a long thread, I have tried the multimeter stuff and it went well, some people here suggested temperature issues which don't make any sense since the PC is looping immediately.

I want to keep my setup and go to work immediately. Thanks God I have not been making a living lately from it, but I need to get back.

On the other hand, all the Gigabytes Mobo's I've had had some sort of booting loop issue, I actually hate them.

The last thing I am going to try is taking this rig to a techie as you suggested, but in this country I don't think techies are going to do beyond what I did on this thread,, but I will try…


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01 Sep 2017   #72
ICIT2LOL

Desk1 7 Home Prem / Desk2 10 Pro / Main lap Asus ROG 10 Pro 2 laptop Toshiba 7 Pro Asus P2520 7 & 10
 
 

Hmm that's is strange my friend because most issues I have had especially the Ivy B have been Asus boards the only Giga board that is currently playing up is in a build my son no longer uses but it is not Intel not that I suppose that makes much difference but I think the BIOS chip#1 is bricked. The Sandy is a Giga board as is one I refurbished (with a better CPU, GPU and SSD hard drive) and shipped it to the UK for my brother now Steve has had a few issues but they have been software ones. So I can't say Giga are so bad I wouldn't buy one a gain although I do prefer Asus gear.

Now it sounds (no pun intended) that you like myself really like audio things because I find graphical stuff a bit of a mystery at times and that this machine should be up and running if you use it for business.

So we have it right the board is set up outside the case on a say cardboard box and hooked up with the power supply CPU GPU and ? sound card and of course the monitor.

Now apart from the GPU and sound card the connecting cables for the hard drive (did we get a new drive?) which should be ideally new including the monitor. Have we tried another monitor? KB and mouse, have you got some known good RAM stick you can use is the install a fresh one and ideally using the freshest ISO from Microsoft oh and is the CMOS battery a new one? . I am going down this track because it is keeping the components to a minimum and avoiding using the current install. It doesn't take long to set up and it sounds sort of mad hatter/Heath Robinson but I would try and this fails then it could be said yes the board is dead.

Now this is very simplistic but how it is done now if you like you can bridge the black and green connections with paper clip to power up if by any chance that does work then use the screwdriver method.

how test your computer - YouTube
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07 Oct 2017   #73
amoretam

Windows 7 x64bit Home Premium
 
 

Hi there. This is a lost case. I took PC to technicians and PC started working for a while. Strange like everything with this mobo. Would you pleasse let me know what would be a compatible mobo with my actual components??

Thanks a lot
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07 Oct 2017   #74
ICIT2LOL

Desk1 7 Home Prem / Desk2 10 Pro / Main lap Asus ROG 10 Pro 2 laptop Toshiba 7 Pro Asus P2520 7 & 10
 
 

Hello mate now sorry to hear that things are crap right now and as for a board replacement it is going to be hard to track one down being a Sandy core a a Z77 chipset.

Now I don't know where exactly you are because your profile shows anywhere on the eastern seaboard of the US down through South America. Now if you are in the US maybe Newegg might have a board but I would be real careful because I have noticed some gear they sell is refurbished and frankly I am not keen on that. There is always EBay but again you are taking a chance there too.

A sample of what I mean motherboards with z77 hcipsets - Newegg.com

So didn't the store give you any idea?? seems odd they couldn't say ata the time what was wrong and what your options were. Anyway keep me posted mate.
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07 Oct 2017   #75
amoretam

Windows 7 x64bit Home Premium
 
 

Thanks much. I am in DR the caribbean. After reading you I beleive I will have to build another one from scratch and ditch my lovely i5 sandy bridge and fan and stuff.

I really dont want to know what happened with a system that worked beautifully fot 3 years and appeared with this issue. Time to invest. So I am now going to pc parts.com to build my thing. ....

Oh gosh, to start installing all my programs again is really a bothersome thing to me
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07 Oct 2017   #76
ICIT2LOL

Desk1 7 Home Prem / Desk2 10 Pro / Main lap Asus ROG 10 Pro 2 laptop Toshiba 7 Pro Asus P2520 7 & 10
 
 

Look I am so sorry we could not fix it mate and if is of any consolation my Ivy Bridge which I built after my Sandy B has a wobbly boot on too and I am left with the same decision as yourself re building.

I was thinking of building a Skylake based on an i7 but the prices have skyrocketed since I built those machines and they are now into the 8th gen Intel cores (Coffeelake) and while the cores are not so expensive I suppose when you take into consideration the board RAM GPU etc etc then it becomes really well priced for them not for us eh?

Plus as you say you have to reinstall your programs and I am fairly sure Windows 10 will have to be the oS because Intel support stopped at the Skylake cores for 7. The other thing is too that if you have soemthing like Office installed now is it going to be compatible with the new build all in all my friend pretty ordinary for the average user eh??

Still good luck I hope you get what you are after - myself I have gone back to doing a bit more painting this time in acrylics rather than computing though I still enjoy it hasn't been the same since the advent of 10 and all the new Intel stuff.
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07 Oct 2017   #77
johnhoh

Win7 pro x64
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by amoretam View Post
So I am now going to pc parts.com to build my thing. Oh gosh, to start installing all my programs again is really a bothersome thing to me
No need to re-install programs, you can just use your existing windows boot drive on the new machine. Just follow the instructions in this post I made a while back, plus follow the steps in "Scenario 1" that is a part of the referenced wintips link. You do this right before your very last shutdown on the old machine, just prior to moving the boot drive over to a new machine.

[Failing Motherboard]Transplanting Windows 7 SSD to an identical lapt) - Windows 7 Help Forums
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07 Oct 2017   #78
amoretam

Windows 7 x64bit Home Premium
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by johnhoh View Post
No need to re-install programs, you can just use your existing windows boot drive on the new machine. Just follow the instructions in this post I made a while back, plus follow the steps in "Scenario 1" that is a part of the referenced wintips link. You do this right before your very last shutdown on the old machine, just prior to moving the boot drive over to a new machine.

[Failing Motherboard]Transplanting Windows 7 SSD to an identical lapt) - Windows 7 Help Forums
This is awesome. I was also thinking about Acronis Universal Restore. I have an acronis image as a backup too. Ideas welcome all the way. ..... thanks. I really want to keep things as they are, besides i need to get to work inmediately.....

Cool
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07 Oct 2017   #79
ICIT2LOL

Desk1 7 Home Prem / Desk2 10 Pro / Main lap Asus ROG 10 Pro 2 laptop Toshiba 7 Pro Asus P2520 7 & 10
 
 

Well good luck withthe new machine mate I hope it all goes well for you.
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28 Oct 2017   #80
amoretam

Windows 7 x64bit Home Premium
 
 

System Builder - Ryzen 5 1600 3.2GHz 6-Core, GeForce GT 710 2GB - PCPartPicker

Hi there. This is my next build based on AmD this time. This will be primarily for music production. I will use my current HDD,s and new power supply I have here. What do you guys think.? What I like about this is that it will be supported in the future.

Thanks a lot.
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