Upgrading was a Mistake

aij235h · 13 Sep 2017

So I bought and built myself a brand new ryzen 7 system. And got windows 7 to work on it with no problems. After using my new PC for a lil' while, I realized that I made a mistake. I was just fine with my sandy bridge system. I'm not a power user and the games I play run fine with DX11. I wasted over 1000$ on a brand new computer that I didn't need. If you guys are like me dont bother getting a new PC, a smarter option would be upgrading what you currently have, more RAM, better GPU, New SSD, Etc. Ryzen is nice and I'm not knocking it. it's just not enough of an upgrade from a sandybirdge chip for the average user. If you're using a first gen i7, phenom or god forbid a bulldozer; then yeah go for it, other wise stick with what you got.

Also I've noticed something odd about Windows 10. It performs better in featherweight tasks and synthetics, but open more than a dozen or so youtube videos and it begins to lag. Windows 7 on the other hand can handle high stress loads even better. As I write this I have 20+ youtube tabs open and downloading and I'm playing a game on my second monitor with zero hiccups or frame rate loss. Same exact specs, just one SSD has win 10 and the other Win 7.

ICIT2LOL · 13 Sep 2017

I am a little confused as to what you saying aij mate it sounds like you are happy with your Sandy Bridge I have one myself and running 10 on it my other machines are running both systems although the Windows 7 machines have issues.

Now if you are happy with 7 on the S and like 10 why not drop a 10 OEM into the new machine and have the best of both worlds remembering that support for 7 is on the downhill run and sooner or later you are going to have got have 10 unless you are willing to run 7 which could become compromised. From a personal point of view I would go the 10 OEM on the new machine and like I said have the best of both worlds or even sell it on and recoup some of your money.

Now if you decide to got the latter then if/when you do install the 10 make sure you clean the drive first and not just format it.

AddRAM · 14 Sep 2017

aij, you don't have to tell us that, almost everyone of us here builds our own PC`s and we usually upgrade within a 2 year period, to us it`s a hobby/obsession :)

My Z170 build is not even 2 years old and I've already gotten my X299 and a 7800X. I`ll get the 7900X when I can afford it. :)

My 980 Ti`s are 2 years and 3 months old and it's time for some new cards.

fireberd · 14 Sep 2017

I use mine for my recording studio. Using a lot of MIDI Synths can eat up CPU and memory. Having a relatively new machine helps for this type of recording studio. I went from an i7 3770 to and i7 6700K last December. It will last for another year or two and will need updating. However, for recording studio work Ryzen is out as (poor) audio latency is one problem with Ryzen. Intel wins out for a recording studio "DAW" (PC).

Mellon Head · 14 Sep 2017

fireberd said:

However, for recording studio work Ryzen is out as (poor) audio latency is one problem with Ryzen. Intel wins out for a recording studio "DAW" (PC).

Good to know fireberd. I was about to buy a Ryzen for my new DAW. I guess it's Intel for me now.

Whew!

aij235h · 14 Sep 2017

What I'm trying to say is that if you're a normal everyday user like myself, you may not need to upgrade at all. Prosumers maybe should upgrade, but the rest of us, Nah.

Windows 10 does nothing better than 7 nor does 10 have anything that I want. DX12, Vulcan, Etc. I dont need them, most games run fine on DX11 for me.

Dont get caught up in the hype guys.

P.S. I usually upgrade my computer every 5 years or so.

fireberd · 14 Sep 2017

Jim Roseberry, who builds commercial DAW PC's for a living, frequently posts on the Cakewalk Sonar Forum. He apparently did some in depth testing of Ryzen motherboards and CPU's and posted some findings. His take is he will not offer or build a Ryzen system for his customers.
Purrrfect Audio

Mellon Head · 15 Sep 2017

If someone making professional DAW machines won't build a Ryzen system for his customers, that really says a lot about the Ryzen platform itself. If the latency is as much of a problem as is indicated, how well do they perform in other scientific based and time critical tasks? I would be interested in reading something of that as well. (If only from an intellectual standpoint, I'm going Intel)

ethel · 15 Sep 2017

Hi Everyone, I was just reading aij235h (or god forbid a bulldozer) and curious what is wrong with it.

I have had the AMD A4-5300 dual core processor coming up to 4 years, and have had no problems with it,

and it plays all of the games I want to play with no worries, just wondering why it is seen as bad.

RoasterMen · 16 Sep 2017

AMD's past is well known for bottlenecking their CPUs with their onboard graphics. I see so much wasted potential with A12-9800. So much for GPU horsepower and a poor CPU performance.