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Windows 7: OEM to Full Version W7

09 Jan 2018   #11

W7 64bit Home Premium OEM

Thank you all, that's what I wanted to know. I did read the stuff but not carefully. I do see some other offers that apparently are left over keys from perhaps dead/broken computers. It takes me a while to read and understand this stuff, not being in the business.

I kind of wonder if I could just buy a key from a 'Full Version' that has been removed from service/broken. I would think that would be legitimate, even using just the 'Full Version' key with my W7 discs, that is changing the product key from OEM to retail? All that is doing is transferring the key from one computer to another? Or am I still missing something?

All in all, though $140 is not that much. I've actually been thinking about rebuilding this computer with a new MB, SSDrive and a few upgrades with more than 8GB memory and a quad core. This computer has been good to me over the years, 3.2GB MSI with 8GB ram and a 10Krpm Raptor HD and a TB F drive for storage. I'm not a gamer and the most CPU intensive thing I have is SpectrumLab, which uses a lot of CPU to do FFT for sound card computations, that does slow it down. Other than that just casual Office and an old version 5.5 of PhotoShop which I'm amazed still runs on W7. I've got a bit of money in my Roth IRA I need to use before I check out.

Thanks again.

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09 Jan 2018   #12

W7 home premium 32bit/W7HP 64bit/w10 tp insider ring

Hi Dogt

As for using keys from another "dead" computer, they will not work on a retail motherboard, Gigabyte MSI etc.
after the trial period it will turn non-genuine as there will not be a SLIC table present, part of the MS validation process, thats just a simplistic explanation, there are other checks as well.

COA sticker keys are not "Full version" there still OEM - NON -transferrable
Retail and System builder are Full versions and Transferrable
(but can only be used on one comp at a time)

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09 Jan 2018   #13

W7 64bit Home Premium OEM

Got it, somewhat. But I understand that an OEM version (System Builder Pack - which is what I have) is pretty much stuck to a MB unless it's replaced as a bad MB. A 'Full Version' (Retail?) can be transferred to another (single) new computer from the same owner as long as the old computer is not used? Just to be legit. I have no intention of going past the system.
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10 Jan 2018   #14

Windows 7 HP 64

There are two major Win 7 licenses:
Retail - For customers - Can be transferred from one computer to another.
OEM - To be used by Computers builders. Valid only for that computer.

Under OEM license you have two types
- OEM SLP for big builders (HP, Dell, Lenovo etc). This license aren't for sale for customers.
- OEM System Builder for small builders. This license are the one that you buy at Newegg etc.
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10 Jan 2018   #15

Windows 7 Pro & Ultimate, Windows 8.1 Pro, Linux Mint 19 Cinnamon (All 64-Bit)

It is possible to get legit versions of Windows 7 from eBay. Your best bet would be to look for a Retail boxed version from an experienced business seller with a long history on eBay and good rating.

However, I highly recommend that you DON'T buy software from eBay at all. You have to REALLY know what to look for when it comes to counterfeit software. There are some VERY authentic looking ones these days, but little things do give them away. They look a lot more convincing these days than they did a few years ago. I saw some truly awful looking fakes that were obvious to spot.
I did have a friend buy a Retail version of Windows 8.1 Pro a year ago and it looked VERY authentic. Box looked authentic. But as soon as he showed it to me, there were little signs that gave it away:

Printed letters on the box COA were a slightly different font.
Product Key looked like it had been printed using a photocopier.
Printed booklets had a slightly different feel to the card.
Arrows on the discs didn't line up from Center to Outside Edge and was clearly a sticker running around the outside.

Running 'slmgr' showed the key to be an OEM_DM key and NOT a Retail key. To the untrained eye though, this would look and act like an Authentic Windows install - until the key gets flagged and blocked!

Moral of the long post - it's better to avoid Windows software from eBay, unless you really know what to look for.
I can spot a fake one a mile away these days!
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10 Jan 2018   #16

W7 64bit Home Premium OEM

So a legit retail version can be transferred from person to person? As long as it's only on 1 computer. I think I got my OEM from newegg or similar. Then it would be legit to buy a retail version from someone that gave up on their computer (say it broke) and was willing to get rid of the key and went on to perhaps another version of Win?

Can my OEM version be upgraded to Retail version with my OEM DVD? That is, only a legit key or COA as it's called. Or does it require a new disk? That was mainly what I was getting at.

Yes, I'm not that familiar with Win discs, so I would be best served to stay away from possible hacks. Like I say, it's not like I can't afford the $140, but I am a cheapskate. Just ask the wife.

Thanks for all the help.
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10 Jan 2018   #17

Windows 10 Pro x64 x3, Ubuntu

The disk is not the issue, the disk has no value apart from the cost of actual manufacture, and are free to obtain - What you need to obtain is a valid licence to use the software The basic choice for Windows 7 is becoming a lot simpler, Retail licences are very difficult to find at all and are extremely overpriced when you can find them. Even second use sellers are "catching on" to the supply and demand situation in the market and second hand licences are getting expensive $200-250 US and upwards.

The OEM market is slightly less expensive but is just as much a minefield of illegal copies - Used sold as new, Stolen Technet/MSDN, Pre-activated Pirate copies, and the occasional actual legitimate copy - Go to one of the Known Tech outfits, Not online only , best chance for small town america is the Mom & Pop store that keeps a bit of everything, A spade, a car part, and a couple of windows disks in the back from the good old days
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