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Windows 7: Windows 7 is EOL is near, what will you do?

30 Jan 2018   #31
redoak

Windows 7 Home Premium x64
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Barman58 View Post
When Windows 7 reaches EOL I will do absolutely nothing, the same as I've done with many other EOL software packages, I have always moved on to the next in the long line, long before any package has reached EOL,

Have not used Windows 7 for any critical processes for several years,

When I have to use it for support purposes I find it very dated,

I started using it before it reached Beta level and enjoyed the look and feel especially when compared to the awful XP Luna Interface, But Seven's time has past
You find Windows 7 'dated', I find Window 10 to be eye-bleedingly ugly. But oh well, de gustibus non est disputandum I will use Windows 7 on this rig until it dies, and no doubt my next computer will have Win10 on it. I'll deal with it, but I'm not looking forward to it. (I have been running Win10 on and off as a dual boot since Day 1 of the Insider's program.)

I, too, have used every DOS and Windows since the beginning. In fact, when I started in this business, Microsoft's only product was a BASIC interpreter. Then came DOS. Then Windows. Then more Windows. My fave was Windows 2000 - I skipped WinXP altogether. Vista, meh, 7 good, 8.x yuck.

Anyway, onwards! Or something...


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30 Jan 2018   #32
lehnerus2000

W7 Ultimate SP1, LM18.3 MATE, W10 Home, #All 64 bit
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by MSClin View Post
When the extended support expire and critical vulnerabilities show up (if any), you will be exposed to big risk, all depending on how critical the vulnerabilities are. It's always better to use up-to-date OS, every advanced user which takes care of his stuff know this.
In theory that's true.

I assume that you haven't noticed the current "Meltdown & Spectre" patch debacles (or complaints about W10 Update/Upgrade issues).

Also if the situation is bad enough MS will may release patches, just like they did for XP last year (3 years after the end of EOS).

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by redoak View Post
You find Windows 7 'dated', I find Window 10 to be eye-bleedingly ugly. But oh well, de gustibus non est disputandum I will use Windows 7 on this rig until it dies, and no doubt my next computer will have Win10 on it. I'll deal with it, but I'm not looking forward to it. (I have been running Win10 on and off as a dual boot since Day 1 of the Insider's program.)
Another option would be to install a Linux Distro (like Ubuntu or Linux Mint) and then use VM software (like VMware Player) to create a W7 VM.

It might not be worthwhile if you mainly use your PC to play modern games though.
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30 Jan 2018   #33
redoak

Windows 7 Home Premium x64
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by lehnerus2000 View Post
In theory that's true.

I assume that you haven't noticed the current "Meltdown & Spectre" patch debacles (or complaints about W10 Update/Upgrade issues).

Also if the situation is bad enough MS will release patches, just like they did for XP last year (3 years after the end of EOS).


Another option would be to install a Linux Distro (like Ubuntu or Linux Mint) and then use VM software (like VMware Player) to create a W7 VM.

It might not be worthwhile if you mainly use your PC to play modern games though.
I don't play any games, modern or otherwise Just not a gamer - working with these things is game enough for me. And I've been dual booting Linux since 1998, very familiar and comfortable with it, and it will be there. But I need some Windows or other to support a few people - that's really why I even bother with it any more.
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30 Jan 2018   #34
MSClin

Windows 7 Ultimate 32-bit, Linux Mint 19.0 Xfce 64-bit
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by lehnerus2000 View Post
I assume that you haven't noticed the current "Meltdown & Spectre" patch debacles (or complaints about W10 Update/Upgrade issues).
I did noticed them.

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by lehnerus2000 View Post
Also if the situation is bad enough MS will release patches, just like they did for XP last year (3 years after the end of EOS).
I actually thought that they don't patch critical vulnerabilities after the extended support is ended.
Pretty useful to know this.

But to be honest, the recent Windows 7 updates just ruined W7. My first thing after installing Windows OS is to install the updates on it, but never more!
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30 Jan 2018   #35
BenyaminL

Windows 7 Ultimate x64
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Layback Bear View Post
From post # 25 by BenyaminL



Why in the world is Microsoft making money a bad thing?
If Microsoft doesn't make money we don't have any operating system.

Why would any company spend "billions of dollars" not to make money?

Jack
I mean in the bad ways... I know many of vendor works towards new things, software as a service that could make money and mining data on users... I think that's what I concern about..
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30 Jan 2018   #36
BenyaminL

Windows 7 Ultimate x64
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by MSClin View Post
I did noticed them.



I actually thought that they don't patch critical vulnerabilities after the extended support is ended.
Pretty useful to know this.

But to be honest, the recent Windows 7 updates just ruined W7. My first thing after installing Windows OS is to install the updates on it, but never more!
M$ decided to patch it because many of xp users still out there and use it to connect to Internet.. that's why M$ done it..
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31 Jan 2018   #37
TechnoMage2016

Windows 7 Ultimate, SP1, x86
 
 

To paraphrase a famous man.."they will have to pry this OS out of my cold, dead, hands". (Win-7, Ultimate/32)

As a working PC Tech, I have to keep up on the OS of the day, that now being Windows 10.
But what I don't like is the time it takes me to set up a new PC with factory installed Windows 10 on it.

Windows 10 works, of course, and when installing it on an older PC, it has a very sizeable driver package, that previous versions of Windows, like W-7, did not have. But just disabling all the security holes, seems to take forever. I hate that! And people who won't or can't do that, leave themselves wide open the the snoops at MS. Is nothing sacred?

Then when all the open doors are finally closed, installing "The Classic Shell" can make W-10 look and act pretty much like the old familiar Win-7 or even Win-XP, which most old timers are familiar with.

Beware of the Name Brand PC's that come out with Windows 10, and were upgraded from Win-7 before they were sold. Doing a Factory Restore takes them back to Win-7. Arggg! I have one friend/customer who got caught up in that trap. A recent MS update disabled The Classic Shell and it cannot be re-installed. So now he's stuck with a computer that looks like crap to him. Only a HD wipe and a re-install of Windows XX will solve his problem.
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31 Jan 2018   #38
mrjimphelps

Linux Mint 18.2 xfce 64-bit (VMWare host) / Windows 8.1 Pro 32-bit (VMWare guest)
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by TechnoMage2016 View Post
Beware of the Name Brand PC's that come out with Windows 10, and were upgraded from Win-7 before they were sold. Doing a Factory Restore takes them back to Win-7. Arggg! I have one friend/customer who got caught up in that trap. A recent MS update disabled The Classic Shell and it cannot be re-installed. So now he's stuck with a computer that looks like crap to him. Only a HD wipe and a re-install of Windows XX will solve his problem.
TM, that is good advice. I never thought of that.
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31 Jan 2018   #39
lehnerus2000

W7 Ultimate SP1, LM18.3 MATE, W10 Home, #All 64 bit
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by MSClin View Post
I actually thought that they don't patch critical vulnerabilities after the extended support is ended.
Pretty useful to know this.
Unfortunately there's no guarantee that they'll do it again (I've rephrased that post).

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by MSClin View Post
But to be honest, the recent Windows 7 updates just ruined W7. My first thing after installing Windows OS is to install the updates on it, but never more!
You should be able to safely install:
  1. W7
  2. SP1
  3. KB3020369 (Pre-requisite for KB3125574)
  4. KB3125574 (effectively SP2)
This will give you a W7 install that is updated to April 2016.
After that only I'd suggest that you only apply the Security-Only roll-up updates.

You'll also need to install the separate updates for .NET and IE.
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08 Apr 2018   #40
jamaclaypod

7 Home Premium 64 bit ASUS MoBo
 
 

Nothing. My solution is to keep 7 installation offline so no crud can mess it up. I use 8.1 on an Acer to fetch email and connect, but my main workhorse is the isolated Anitec with Windows 7 which I use to write. I don't expect to ever use Windows 10. It's been four years since I got the Acer with 8.1 and I have had literally no issues. I don't like the "Tiles" so I go classic. I don't see any problems in there being no further support for 7, for me! When the drive finally goes, I'll install a new SATA and reinstall 7 from an ISO file on a USB 2.0, which is supported by the MoBo. Of course it claims my copy of 7 isn't genuine because it never connects to the internet, but who cares?
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