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Windows 7: Registry Anomaly

13 Feb 2018   #1
Joe Ciaravino

Win 7 64 bit Home Premium
 
 
Registry Anomaly

Windows 7 64 bit

I run Eusing Free Reg Cleaner as well as Free Windows Registry Repair. BOTH get stuck in:

"Empty Registry Keys"

Computer\Hkey_Users\S-1-5-21-2896351573-1439903457-3680831720-1000\software\classes\CLSID

The programs both stall there.


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13 Feb 2018   #2
torchwood

W7 home premium 32bit/W7HP 64bit/w10 tp insider ring
 
 

Hi Joe,

I am NOT surprised
Thats a core registry entry - remove that and your in all sorts of trouble.

Please dont use registry cleaners

Roy
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13 Feb 2018   #3
MSClin

Windows 7 Ultimate 32-bit, Linux Mint 18.3 MATE 64-bit
 
 

I too don't recommend the use of both the registry cleaners you mentioned. Most of them will "brick" your registry and you may get specific errors in future when using the computer for normal things. Not only that, but most of this type of programs are pure scam - disguised malware. The web is full of malware disguised as registry tools. Some of them will even ask you to pay to fix the errors.
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13 Feb 2018   #4
Snick

Win 10 x64, Linux Lite, Win 7 x64, BlackArch, Kali, VMWare Workstation Player, OpenVPN
 
 

Hi Joe,

The only registry cleaner I would trust is CCleaner. I've used it for years & have never come across a "bricking" of a computer. Also, Eusing and Free Windows Registry Repair are garbage! If you have a backup and DVD/CD for it, you can boot to DVD/CD and restore to point prior to using your registry cleaner or, reimage your HDD/SSD if you have an image saved.

Take a look at this tutorial by Brink How to Boot to the system Recover Options in Windows 7

Do you have a Windows 7 x32 (32 bit) recovery CD? If not, is the computer you're using to post in SevenForums a Win7 x32 machine, if it is, you can create a repair disk.

Do you have a Windows 7 x32 installation disk? Do you know anyone who does that would let you borrow it. It is not copyright protected, only the 25-character product key (I'm a registered paralegal in the US)

Rule of thumb for newbies and veterans alike: If it ain't broke, don't fix it!
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13 Feb 2018   #5
Joe Ciaravino

Win 7 64 bit Home Premium
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Snick View Post
Hi Joe,

The only registry cleaner I would trust is CCleaner. I've used it for years & have never come across a "bricking" of a computer. Also, Eusing and Free Windows Registry Repair are garbage! If you have a backup and DVD/CD for it, you can boot to DVD/CD and restore to point prior to using your registry cleaner or, reimage your HDD/SSD if you have an image saved.

Take a look at this tutorial by Brink How to Boot to the system Recover Options in Windows 7

Do you have a Windows 7 x32 (32 bit) recovery CD? If not, is the computer you're using to post in SevenForums a Win7 x32 machine, if it is, you can create a repair disk.

Do you have a Windows 7 x32 installation disk? Do you know anyone who does that would let you borrow it. It is not copyright protected, only the 25-character product key (I'm a registered paralegal in the US)

Rule of thumb for newbies and veterans alike: If it ain't broke, don't fix it!
Thank you.

I will uninstall Eusing and Windows Reg Repair and stay with CCCleaner in the future.

Mine is a 64 bit installation.
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13 Feb 2018   #6
Snick

Win 10 x64, Linux Lite, Win 7 x64, BlackArch, Kali, VMWare Workstation Player, OpenVPN
 
 

Win7 x64 so it is! Must of had a little brain fade!
Have you managed to repair your registry? Did you locate a Repair Disk, or Win 7 x64 Disk? I would be happy to create a repair disk on my Win 7 machine and upload it, however, I believe you can enter the repair environment on your machine without it, providing the deleted registry key(s) aren't an issue there. I'm going to go ahead and create a repair disk, then create an ISO file so I'll have it on hand for you if you wish, and for others with similar issues in the future.
Windows 7 automatically makes a backup every week or so. My desktop has one from 2/7/18. You most likely have an auto backup. Would you like me to assist you in restoring your registry from the backup? It's a several step process!
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13 Feb 2018   #7
JoWazzoo

Windows 7 Pro 64
 
 

Have you tried booting to Safe Mode and then trying a Restore point before your hosed the Registry? I was ready to format and that worked. Before you do that you may want to boot to Command prompt and do a SFC /scannow first.
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14 Feb 2018   #8
Joe Ciaravino

Win 7 64 bit Home Premium
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Snick View Post
Win7 x64 so it is! Must of had a little brain fade!
Have you managed to repair your registry? Did you locate a Repair Disk, or Win 7 x64 Disk? I would be happy to create a repair disk on my Win 7 machine and upload it, however, I believe you can enter the repair environment on your machine without it, providing the deleted registry key(s) aren't an issue there. I'm going to go ahead and create a repair disk, then create an ISO file so I'll have it on hand for you if you wish, and for others with similar issues in the future.
Windows 7 automatically makes a backup every week or so. My desktop has one from 2/7/18. You most likely have an auto backup. Would you like me to assist you in restoring your registry from the backup? It's a several step process!
Thanks for your generous offer Snick. Whatever may have happened, occurred about 6 weeks ago and programs have been added/removed since then. It boots very fast with its solid state primary drive. I have all registry backups in my Eusing program. What would be the consequences of replacing the registry with a 2 month old version?

The thing is, is that the computer works just fine. No problems although it takes about 2 seconds longer to boot in the last 6 weeks. Other than that bit of anal obsession, everything works well. I'm simply curious as to why registry cleaners (with the exception of CCleaner) get "stuck" when trying to clean Empty Registry Keys.
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14 Feb 2018   #9
Joe Ciaravino

Win 7 64 bit Home Premium
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by JoWazzoo View Post
Have you tried booting to Safe Mode and then trying a Restore point before your hosed the Registry? I was ready to format and that worked. Before you do that you may want to boot to Command prompt and do a SFC /scannow first.
Jo,

See my reply to Snick. I don't know whether or not there is a problem. I'd rather not risk breaking something.
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14 Feb 2018   #10
TechnoMage2016

Windows 7 Ultimate, SP1, x86
 
 

CCleaner? roflmao !!!

Of all the so-called registry cleaners, that I've tried over the years, that's the only one that damaged my registry so bad that I could not even boot up my PC. Please, even though it seems to have lots of Fan Boys, don't use it.

Being somewhat stubborn, I actually tried CCleaner twice, over a several years period of time. In both cases I had to Restore my Backup copy of my C: partition, to get my PC back in operating condition again.

So if you insist on using a Registry Cleaner, at least back up your C: drive with a FREE and reliable Backup Program, and save the backup to an External Hard Drive or Flash Drive of adequate size. I do both.
Remember, what a wise old sage told me years ago, "the only bad backup is the one you decided NOT to make". So anytime you're going to do something questionable, like futzing with your registry, do a C: drive backup first. OH...and, your backup/restore program must be on a Bootable Media, like a CD, and not on your hard drive.

Good Luck!
TechnoMage

PS: There are actually several SAFE registry cleaners, but most that work well for Windows 7 to 10 are Retail Programs. I tried one called "Windows Utilities" (WinUtil) and I liked it so much that I bought it. (and I typically HATE to buy software, if I can get it for FREE)
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