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Windows 7: How do u make sure the person working on your PC can't access ur files

13 Feb 2018   #11
mrjimphelps

Linux Mint 18.2 xfce 64-bit (VMWare host) / Windows 8.1 Pro 32-bit (VMWare guest)
 
 

Lady Fitzgerald stated one really good reason for keeping your data on a separate drive - you can remove the data drive if you need to bring your computer in for service. (You stole my thunder!)

Another good reason to keep your data on a separate drive is that it simplifies backups. Basically, you back up your Windows drive every now and then (say once every one or two months), and you backup your data drive regularly, say once a week.

I have two hard drives in my main computer - one for the OS (Linux, in my case) and the other for my data. And the data drive is shared; it is the data drive for all of my computers.


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14 Feb 2018   #12
kuurt

Windows 7 64 bit
 
 

Is that what you guys are talking about when you say "data drive", a second hard drive? I assumed they meant a zip drive that you plug into a usb port, no?

mrjimphelps, if your data drive is in your main computer, how is it shared with your other computers?
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14 Feb 2018   #13
Lady Fitzgerald

Win 7 Ultimate 64 bit
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by kuurt View Post
How would you lose your c drive - it's built into the computer? I suppose you could have a hard drive failure, but I do occasionally back up my files to a zip drive. I just don't like the idea of having my files stored in only one place. I don't have linux on my computer, I just have Windows 7, so I don't know how they could boot linux.
Any drive is subject to failure, including the C: drive that's built into your computer, external drives, zip drives, thumb drives, etc.. In fact, given enough time, all drives will eventually fail, some sooner than others (I've seen new drives arrive DOA). Also, files can become corrupted and fail to work properly, if at all.

The separate data drives we were referring to would also be "built into" (in other words, installed inside) your computer. Computers can have more than one drive installed. Even many laptops can have two drives installed.

Someone can access the data on your computer without a password by using a copy of Linux installed on a CD, DVD, or thumb drive. Linux, or even another OS, for that matter, doesn't have to be installed on your computer to be able to run as long as the media (CD, DVD, thumb drive) is connected to the computer.

You are not the only one who doesn't like to have files stored in more than one place (heck, I'm positively paranoid that way!). For data to be reasonably safe, it must exist in at least three places, most typically on the computer, on an onsite backup drive, and on an offsite backup drive. Even only one backup is better than none. By occasionally backing up your files to a zip drive, you are already doing better than most people, who don't do any backups at all. Yu should consider more frequent backups, though. Any data added or changed on your computer after your last backup would be lost if your computer should die.
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14 Feb 2018   #14
Megahertz07

Windows 7 HP 64
 
 

As you have a desktop, the best solution is to have your data on another physical drive (as Lady suggested above).
When you take the computer to a repair, just take out the data drive.

Beware with encryption. If something goes wrong, you loose all data on it. Don't try it without making a disk image backup BEFORE you begin.
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14 Feb 2018   #15
TechnoMage2016

Windows 7 Ultimate, SP1, x86
 
 

Kuurt,
Are you serious....still using a ZIP drive? I've not even seen one of those in over a decade.

Today, high capacity Flash Drives or Terrabyte External USB drives are the preferred media for all your backups.

OK, a little bit of info for you.... First if you don't trust a particular PC Service center, then don't take your PC there. A really good PC service center should be Certified and Bonded. But, you can't hide anything on a hard drive, except for High Security Encryption.

I'm a Computer Tech myself, and I never ask a customer for their password, if they were not smart enough to give it to me in the first place. There are so many ways for a technician to get past a password, it's not even funny. I can get into any running computer, in less than five minutes, passwords not withstanding.

If you have highly personal data, pictures, etc. on your hard drive that you don't want anyone to see, then copy them all to an external drive, and then delete them off of your hard drive.
OR, just don't save them to the hard drive in the first place. Only save them to an external drive, that you can unplug from a USB port for safety. And if your data files are that critical to you, multiple backup drives would be in order. I have my own data files backed up to four different drives, and I update them all at least once a week.

Good luck!
TechnoMage
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14 Feb 2018   #16
bigmck

Windows 7 Home Premium 32-Bit - Build 7600 SP1
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by kuurt View Post
How would you lose your c drive - it's built into the computer? I suppose you could have a hard drive failure, but I do occasionally back up my files to a zip drive. I just don't like the idea of having my files stored in only one place. I don't have linux on my computer, I just have Windows 7, so I don't know how they could boot linux.
A really easy way to backup you files is with Macrium Software | Macrium Reflect Free It can automatically backup your files on a schedule to an internal or external drive. If you need to restore you files it only takes a few minutes. Check out the link.
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14 Feb 2018   #17
Lady Fitzgerald

Win 7 Ultimate 64 bit
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by TechnoMage2016 View Post
...I have my own data files backed up to four different drives, and I update them all at least once a week...
I'm so glad I'm not the only anal one here!
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14 Feb 2018   #18
kuurt

Windows 7 64 bit
 
 

Quote:
Today, high capacity Flash Drives or Terrabyte External USB drives are the preferred media for all your backups.
I just assumed that a zip drive, thumb drive, and a flash drive were different names for the same thing.

How difficult is it to install a second hard drive as a data drive? I have installed a hard drive before when my last one failed me, but I'm not sure how to connect two of them. I'm assuming each hard drive needs it's own cable to connect to the power supply? And each hard drive needs it's own cable to connect to the mother board? I'm assuming there are places on the power supply and mother board for these second cables?
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14 Feb 2018   #19
Layback Bear

Windows 10 Pro. 64/ version 1709 Windows 7 Pro/64
 
 

To put it simple.

Put your data on a external drive.
Remove the data from the "C" partition after verifying the data is safe on the external drive.
Remove the external drive from the computer.

At this point you have the external drive and the repair shop has your computer.

The repair shop can't see things that aren't there. No encryption or passwords needed.

**If one has a bag full of money in the trunk of their car, they would remove it before taking the car to the repair shop. Same thing with removing the external drive from your computer before taking the computer to a repair shop.

Jack
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14 Feb 2018   #20
kuurt

Windows 7 64 bit
 
 

That might be easier, but then I would have to plug my external drive in every time I want to access my data. I'd rather have a second hard drive like they mentioned because then I could leave it attached to the computer when it's not in the shop getting worked on. Besides, if you stored all your data on an external hard drive how would you back up your external hard drive?
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