MSConfig - which services are necessary to run and which can be off

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  1. Posts : 892
    Windows 7 x64 Ultimate
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       #11

    mrjimphelps said:
    Now that you have disabled all of the non-Microsoft services except for Mozilla Maintenance, has the computer performance issue been resolved? If so, then one or more of the non-Microsoft services was the culprit.



    I'll consult the Black Viper material. As of now, Microsoft Service services are on and that's
    all.



    As to performance, I'm sort of shooting in the dark on it and trying to eliminate possibilities or perceived
    slow spots.


    It could be old/slow memory or the onboard video or something not passing data very well.
    A three core should be handling the small load on this experimental rig. It's a machine I intend to keep in reserve for any failures of my email PC etc.
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  2. Posts : 1,784
    Linux Mint 18.2 xfce 64-bit (VMWare host) / Windows 8.1 Pro 32-bit (VMWare guest)
       #12

    Does the computer seem to be faster now that you have disabled the non-Microsoft services?
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  3. Posts : 0
    Windows 7 Ultimate x64
       #13

    You should use services under the Administrative Tools in the control panel. MSCONFIG is meant for diagnosing issues. So Autoruns is what you should use. Autoruns for Windows - Windows Sysinternals | Microsoft Docs
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    Linux Mint 18.2 xfce 64-bit (VMWare host) / Windows 8.1 Pro 32-bit (VMWare guest)
       #14

    F22 Simpilot said:
    MSCONFIG is meant for diagnosing issues.
    He is diagnosing an issue -- the computer is slow.

    MSCONFIG is the easy way to disable services. It is very straightforward. And it works on every modern version of Windows. There is no problem using MSCONFIG for this purpose.
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  5. Posts : 892
    Windows 7 x64 Ultimate
    Thread Starter
       #15

    Not marked solved yet since using Black Viper to manually change services is a slow process.


    To that point, once done is there a way to store the profile or folder where the
    changes are made if a fresh Win7 install is needed?


    I have pretty good backup, but is there a way to drag and drop the new Services adjustments?


    BTW I am not doing these by rote but reading the descriptions. I don't want to turn off my
    workgroup/homenet for instance.
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  6. Posts : 5,605
    Originally Win 7 Hm Prem x64 Ver 6.1.7600 Build 7601-SP1 | Upgraded to Windows 10 December 14, 2019
       #16

    I know from experience it can be tedious so work at your own pace. It can make it harder if you've taken my advice and hid some of the columns, sometimes looking at the other versions of windows start-states can help in understanding how they work.

    I found some links that can do what you want, but not drag and drop; It'd be easier and quicker to let the system fetch 'em.




    Go take a break an rest your eyes do something different, man doesn't survive by bytes alone....
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  7. Posts : 0
    Windows 7 Ultimate x64
       #17

    You should just get in the habit of cloning your current Comp. to an external hard drive. That way if things really foul up you just clone back. I use AOMEI Backupper to accomplish this. Malware or hardware failure can take me down, but I'll just clone back.

    Of course, if you wanted to do a clean install then Windows scripts are gonna be your best bet.
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  8. Posts : 892
    Windows 7 x64 Ultimate
    Thread Starter
       #18

    Thanks for all the tips. I had to let this go for a bit since messing with services apparently took down
    my video and froze my mouse.


    To explain:


    Doing the Black Viper method is done in three groups-- at least that's the way they print out--
    and alphabetically.


    I had one HD (of two) with a usable config at maybe the first page-- 60 or so of the 165
    entries. I stopped there since I have no clue as to what took down the video.


    But-- and I don't know how these things fit together-- I ran system repair and got usability back.
    And on the other HD backup I had to go as far as rebuilding with fixboot. ( have another thread entry on thatand how it solves.)


    But I do want to go and see how the services get backed up. It's a good tool to know. Thanks



    As to where the error occurred, ( excuse if I'm putting in too many variables talking about
    an HD and a back up) ; Is the only solution to reboot after each Black Raven change to see if
    that is the error?
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  9. Posts : 892
    Windows 7 x64 Ultimate
    Thread Starter
       #19

    I think I answered one of my own questions: Any lockups should be fixed by reverting to Black Raven safe settings. Everything comes slow to me.
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  10. Posts : 5,605
    Originally Win 7 Hm Prem x64 Ver 6.1.7600 Build 7601-SP1 | Upgraded to Windows 10 December 14, 2019
       #20

    Is the only solution to reboot after each Black Raven change to see if
    that is the error?
    It is slower, but it's also the prudent way to go.

    If you've been changing 10, 20, 30 settings at a time it makes it more difficult to home in on the culprit, I'd say stick with no more than 5. If those 5 are okay, good but if something bad happens start them all back up but one. if that one's okay go to the next and stop it, it becomes a process of elimination but it can get tricky because of dependencies. They need to be running for the one you're testing, the first paragraph explains it here.As a general rule you never want to disable a local system service.

    Black Raven??
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