Windows 7 clean install - BIOS questions & system startup time

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       #81

    Actually if I tick the 'show urgent downloads only' box it just lists two of the above - the BIOS and one of the chipsets (Intel Management Engine Components Installer). Nearly sure that is the one that failed on me before if you remember. Maybe it needs the newer BIOS file installed first, before it can be run??
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       #82

    RedLad,

    RedLad said:
    I entered the service tag and got the following list.
    I have looked through the updates. I would first install the ones I have listed below and then look in the Device Manager.

    Some of those updates in the screenshot you posted you probably don't need [and will never use them]. It is like most OEM software that gets installed. It sits there just in case, but quite often does things you haven't asked the OS to do and annoys you with constant pop-ups!

    Realtek High-Definition Audio Driver.
    Dell Precision Workstation T7910 - THIS IS THE BIOS.
    Intel Management Engine Components Installer - Installed as per post below.
    Intel Chipset Device Software - Installed as per post below.
    Intel USB 3.0 eXtensible Host Controller Driver for C610 series Chipset Family.
    Intel 12xx/835xx 10/100/1000 Ethernet Network Drivers - Installed as per post below.
    LSi 3008 Firmware, Ph15.
    LSi SAS3008 Windows 7 64 bit driver.
    NVIDIA Quadro Graphics Driver.

    I hope this helps!
    Last edited by Paul Black; 18 Dec 2018 at 18:44.
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       #83

    Hi RedLad,

    RedLad said:
    Actually if I tick the 'show urgent downloads only' box it just lists two of the above - the BIOS and one of the chipsets (Intel Management Engine Components Installer). Nearly sure that is the one that failed on me before if you remember. Maybe it needs the newer BIOS file installed first, before it can be run??
    OK, download and install those two. Then please look at my previous post!
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       #84

    Hi Paul,
    Just seeing your new post. Over the past few mins I went ahead and did the "Let us analyze your system to find the latest updates." I had to install their (Dell's) SupportAssistLauncher, so did that. It listed the drivers I needed and downloaded 6 of them, but could only install 4. I have attached a screengrab. I also will attach my updated device manager list, which is looking good at last! Well, better than it did earlier tonight.

    I reckon I will need to update the BIOS to fix the last remaining exclamation mark?
    Attached Thumbnails Attached Thumbnails Windows 7 clean install - BIOS questions & system startup time-drivers_supportassistlauncher.jpg   Windows 7 clean install - BIOS questions & system startup time-device_manager4.jpg  
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       #85

    Hi RedLad,

    RedLad said:
    I reckon I will need to update the BIOS to fix the last remaining exclamation mark?
    Yes, ONLY update the BIOS at this present time.

    IMPORTANT: Pay very close attention to the instructions they give for the installation of the BIOS and follow them to the letter!

    Can you also click the view details for the LSi SAS3008 Windows 7 64 bit driver and post the details plaese.
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       #86

    Paul Black said:
    Hi RedLad,



    Yes, ONLY update the BIOS at this present time.

    IMPORTANT: Pay very close attention to the instructions they give for the installation of the BIOS and follow them to the letter!

    Can you also click the view details for the LSi SAS3008 Windows 7 64 bit driver and post the details plaese.

    Before I install the BIOS Paul, I recall you mentioned something about flashing the current state of the BIOS - would this be worth doing before I proceed to install it? Or even would it be ideal for me to note all of the settings in the current one before going ahead?
    Here is the screengrab of the LSI driver.
    Attached Thumbnails Attached Thumbnails Windows 7 clean install - BIOS questions & system startup time-lsi-sas3008-windows-7-64-bit-driver-details.jpg  
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       #87

    Hi RedLad,

    RedLad said:
    Before I install the BIOS Paul, I recall you mentioned something about flashing the current state of the BIOS - would this be worth doing before I proceed to install it? Or even would it be ideal for me to note all of the settings in the current one before going ahead?
    It is the same thing. It basically updates the BIOS with a new program. Noting the settings will make no difference.

    IMPORTANT:The computer cannot boot without the BIOS. If the power supply goes out while the BIOS is being flashed, it can leave you with a permanently damaged BIOS, resulting in your computer becoming a useless box. Another way the BIOS can be severely damaged is if it is flashed with an incorrect update version.

    Go ahead and update the BIOS. Just make sure you follow the instructions exactly.
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       #88

    Paul Black said:
    Hi RedLad,



    It is the same thing.

    IMPORTANT:The computer cannot boot without the BIOS. If the power supply goes out while the BIOS is being flashed, it can leave you with a permanently damaged BIOS, resulting in your computer becoming a useless box. Another way the BIOS can be severely damaged is if it is flashed with an incorrect update version.

    Go ahead and update the BIOS. Just make sure you follow the instructions exactly.
    Oh man, now you have me shi*tting it! When you say read the instructions, do you mean the info displayed on the attached image? Or is there a ton of stuff to read and do upon the install - if this is the case, I am best leaving it till tomorrow with a fresh head, I am a little tired here now.

    Also, what is that part I have circled in the image?
    Attached Thumbnails Attached Thumbnails Windows 7 clean install - BIOS questions & system startup time-dell-precision-workstation-t7910-bios.jpg  
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       #89

    Hi RedLad,

    RedLad said:
    Oh man, now you have me shi*tting it! When you say read the instructions, do you mean the info displayed on the attached image?
    No, I mean the instructions further down on the attached image titled Installation instructions.

    I have just looked at it for you and it is a BIOS executable file so that is good.

    This is what you need to do:

    Updating the BIOS through Windows:-

    1. Click Download File to download the file.
    2. When the File Download window appears, click Save to save the file to your hard drive [I recommend the Desktop].
    3. Browse to the location where you downloaded the file and double-click the new file.

    The system automatically restarts and updates the BIOS during the system startup screen. After the BIOS update is complete, the system reboots again.

    Good luck!
    Last edited by Paul Black; 18 Dec 2018 at 19:40.
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  10. Posts : 279
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       #90

    OK thanks Paul.

    I am just reading this -

    Important Information
    A11 and all earlier BIOS releases are incompatible with Intel Xeon E5-16xx/26xx-v4 CPUs (Broadwell). Customers who wish to downgrade from A12 (minimum revision to support Broadwell) or higher must first go through A11 before going to their target BIOS rev. This is due to some significant changes required to enable v4 (Broadwell) CPUs and at the same time allowing Xeon E5-16XX/26XX v3 (Haswell) CPUs and v4 (Broadwell) CPUs BIOS to stay in one BIOS stream. All versions of the Broadwell CPU enabled BIOS (A12+) understand how to migrate the Haswell settings. There are no upgrade restrictions. To downgrade below A12, a user must flash to A11 first. It is the only V3 (Haswell) BIOS with v4 (Broadwell) downgrade logic in place.

    My processors are dual Xeon E5-2687W v3 (I think - Haswell) I will check this tomorrow, to be sure.

    I am knackered tired, I will pick this back up tomorrow Paul. Thanks for the help again, talk soon!
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