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Windows 7: What should we do after January 2020

15 Nov 2019   #231
Lady Fitzgerald

 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by michael diemer View Post
...Now, my wife recently bought a notebook. The idea was to install Zorin on it, but that proved nearly impossible, and I didn't want to just nuke W10, in case she decided she likes it, so it has W10 on it...
You could image the drive, then nuke Win 10 and install Zorin. If Zorin doesn't work out, the restore Win 10 to the machine. Another option might be to put Zorin onto a bootable USB stick and bott from that for a while to see if it will work out. It will run slow but it's an easy way to try it out.


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15 Nov 2019   #232
RoWin7

Win 7 Ult 64-bit
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by poorguy View Post
Hello All,...

...Personally I don't care what OS people use I know Windows XP diehards who refuse to give it up and wonder why things no longer work and it will eventually be the same for Windows 7 diehards.
Thanks for the reply's.
Life is good.

Everyone's found solutions that suit them. I'm pleasantly surprised that there have been so many creative solutions to choose from. I have enough desktop computers to try out several of them. Casual users don't have those choices.
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15 Nov 2019   #233
poorguy

Linux
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by michael diemer View Post
you don't want to do your budget on a machine that's spying on you.
I agree I do my banking and credit card stuff using Linux however what concerns me is the banks and credit card company's all use Windows 10 so your personal information is still being collected so no difference imo.
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15 Nov 2019   #234
poorguy

Linux
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by RoWin7 View Post
I have enough desktop computers to try out several of them. Casual users don't have those choices.
I have 25 desktop computers around my house so yes it's convenient to try different OSs when I want.
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15 Nov 2019   #235
ian50

Windows 7 Pro x64
 
 

Further to my earlier comment on replacing Win10 with a legal copy of Win7, I was lucky (again my naivety in not realising MS is as bloody-minded as indeed it is). I was unaware that Intel have agreed to ensure the newer CPU chips will *not* run Win7. I think I was inadvertently lucky enough to have bought a machine with the Last of the Mohicans. It was certainly not a known factor to me.



So, what to do when my current hardware finally collapses ? This, I hope:


Making Win10 look and act like Win7


I have dl'ed both Sledgehammer 2.6.0 and Classic Shell, and keep WinaeroTweak up to date.All of these are backed up to several independent discs. As much redundancy as I can reasonably supply.


For those who advocate some variation of Linux, the issues here are two:


1) drivers for peripherals such as printers, plotters, scanners etc. Most manufacturers don't bother developing drivers for Linux (too small a market) so one is dependent on Linux programmers to develop for your specific peripherals. Too hit and miss for reliability



2) the whole group of Windows software programmes I've bought and nurtured (CAD, mapping, modelling, 3D). No true equivalents for Linux without enormous effort on my part, way too much trouble
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15 Nov 2019   #236
poorguy

Linux
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by ian50 View Post
Further to my earlier comment on replacing Win10 with a legal copy of Win7, I was lucky (again my naivety in not realising MS is as bloody-minded as indeed it is). I was unaware that Intel have agreed to ensure the newer CPU chips will *not* run Win7. I think I was inadvertently lucky enough to have bought a machine with the Last of the Mohicans. It was certainly not a known factor to me.



So, what to do when my current hardware finally collapses ? This, I hope:


Making Win10 look and act like Win7


I have dl'ed both Sledgehammer 2.6.0 and Classic Shell, and keep WinaeroTweak up to date.All of these are backed up to several independent discs. As much redundancy as I can reasonably supply.
I have a lot computers so I doubt I will ever need to purchase anymore.


Most of them are 10 year old boxes and if Windows 10 runs on them great and if Windows 10 doesn't run on them OH well Linux will.


I find capable computers everywhere for free or very little money so no worries here.

I don't need latest / greatest / newest and prefer old boxes plenty of capable ones available everywhere.


As for these things Sledgehammer 2.6.0 and Classic Shell, Winaero Tweak I've no use for them and never have and never needed any of them.


I install and update and use OOTB and install minimal third party software.




Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by ian50 View Post
For those who advocate some variation of Linux, the issues here are two:


1) drivers for peripherals such as printers, plotters, scanners etc. Most manufacturers don't bother developing drivers for Linux (too small a market) so one is dependent on Linux programmers to develop for your specific peripherals. Too hit and miss for reliability



2) the whole group of Windows software programmes I've bought and nurtured (CAD, mapping, modelling, 3D). No true equivalents for Linux without enormous effort on my part, way too much trouble

Linux may or may not work for all users.


Open source drivers work for my computers without problems.


I don't own a printer and when I need to copy something I copy it into a folder and then to a flash drive and take it to FedX to be printed.


I only web search / Youtube and minor Office document type stuff and pictures from my cell phone and digital camera.


My computer needs are minimal an I don't need much so Linux works great for me.



Windows 10 is what my family uses and I just play around with it and if they ever have any problems I'll be the one who will have to deal with it and that is why I have Windows 10 and it's free.
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15 Nov 2019   #237
michael diemer

Windows 7 x64 SP1
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Lady Fitzgerald View Post
You could image the drive, then nuke Win 10 and install Zorin. If Zorin doesn't work out, the restore Win 10 to the machine. Another option might be to put Zorin onto a bootable USB stick and bott from that for a while to see if it will work out. It will run slow but it's an easy way to try it out.
I've been afraid to mess too much with it, since it's her computer. I'm waiting to see if she decides she just prefers Linux, then I'll have at it.
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16 Nov 2019   #238
RoWin7

Win 7 Ult 64-bit
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by poorguy View Post
I have a lot computers so I doubt I will ever need to purchase anymore...

...Open source drivers work for my computers without problems...
What are open source drivers?
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16 Nov 2019   #239
Aardvarkly

Windows 7 Pro 64bit
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by ian50 View Post
Further to my earlier comment on replacing Win10 with a legal copy of Win7, I was lucky (again my naivety in not realising MS is as bloody-minded as indeed it is). I was unaware that Intel have agreed to ensure the newer CPU chips will *not* run Win7. I think I was inadvertently lucky enough to have bought a machine with the Last of the Mohicans. It was certainly not a known factor to me.
I will shortly be building a new PC since my present one is showing signs of becoming flaky. I discovered that to keep W7 I need to use MB and processor no newer than 6th generation (whatever that means) and I found those items are getting a bit scarce.

But it seams Linux will run on pretty much anything that lights up.
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16 Nov 2019   #240
poorguy

Linux
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by RoWin7 View Post
What are open source drivers?
OK on Windows hardware manufactures write / create drivers for their hardware.

Graphics drivers / audio drivers / ethernet drivers / motherboard drives etc
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Since the market share for profit on the home user desktop for Linux is low some hardware manufactures refuse to write / create drivers for their hardware.

Graphics drivers / audio drivers / ethernet drivers / motherboard drives etc.


In the open source world the Kernel has the drivers which support system hardware.
In the open source world the Kernel developers write / create drivers for the hardware to work in Linux.


Most of the time these drivers are installed at the time of installation of Linux although may not always be the case.



Free and open-source graphics device driver - Wikipedia

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How to Install Hardware Drivers on Linux
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