What should we do after January 2020

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  1. Posts : 9
    Windows 10 LTSC 2019, planning to go back to 7
       #61

    johnhoh said:
    Make sure the new machine has an intel skylake cpu and NOT a later cpu (like intel kaby lake, intel coffee lake, or amd ryzen

    Make sure the new machine does NOT have a motherboard chipset of 370 or 390. Go with 170 or 270, both of which are driver compatible with Win7.

    I have an 8th gen Cofee Lake i7 and a HP 8437 Z370 motherboard. Do these cause problems on Win 7 or is it a problem only for the user you're trying to help?
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  2. Posts : 1,797
    Win 7 Ultimate, Win 8.1 Pro, Linux Mint 19 Cinnamon (All 64-Bit)
       #62

    OfficialAlexM said:
    I have an 8th gen Cofee Lake i7 and a HP 8437 Z370 motherboard. Do these cause problems on Win 7 or is it a problem only for the user you're trying to help?
    Windows 7 should work fine, the main issue is finding the drivers for them, as the manufacturers might not be making them for 7 anymore. You could always use a site like the Win-Raid forums for help on that though. Forum - Win-Raid Forum (Drivers - Firmware - Modding)
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  3. Posts : 1,363
    Win7 pro x64
       #63

    OfficialAlexM said:
    I have an 8th gen Cofee Lake i7 and a HP 8437 Z370 motherboard. Do these cause problems on Win 7 or is it a problem only for the user you're trying to help?
    The integrated GPU on coffee lake will not work on win7, but that's not an issue as long as you use a video card.

    The USB 3 ports on a z370 will not work on win7 unless you go through some gyrations. Here is a link on how to do it.
    How to install Windows 7 on Coffee Lake PC (Z370 chipset MB - Asus Maximus X Hero) - Overclock.net - An Overclocking Community

    windows update will not work on win7 with coffee lake by default, but you can get around that using the wufuc tool
    GitHub - zeffy/wufuc: Disables the "Unsupported Hardware" message in Windows Update, and allows you to continue installing updates on Windows 7 and 8.1 systems with Intel Kaby Lake, AMD Ryzen, or other unsupported processors.
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  4. Posts : 9
    Windows 10 LTSC 2019, planning to go back to 7
       #64

    johnhoh said:
    The integrated GPU on coffee lake will not work on win7, but that's not an issue as long as you use a video card.

    The USB 3 ports on a z370 will not work on win7 unless you go through some gyrations. Here is a link on how to do it.
    How to install Windows 7 on Coffee Lake PC (Z370 chipset MB - Asus Maximus X Hero) - Overclock.net - An Overclocking Community

    windows update will not work on win7 with coffee lake by default, but you can get around that using the wufuc tool
    GitHub - zeffy/wufuc: Disables the "Unsupported Hardware" message in Windows Update, and allows you to continue installing updates on Windows 7 and 8.1 systems with Intel Kaby Lake, AMD Ryzen, or other unsupported processors.

    well that's just great, looks like i'm doomed to use win 10 and have to deal with this forced v-sync issue that makes my 144hz/60hz dual monitor setup not work well.


    edit: actually, i followed the first link and saw that it's for ASUS Maximus X Hero. I'm on an HP Pavilion Power 580-199ng. Do the instructions work for any model or is it only for the maximus?
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  5. Posts : 9,600
    Win 7 Ultimate 64 bit
       #65

    johnhoh said:
    yes. You can do this and the result will be a system that looks exactly like your old system, same programs, same tweaks, same settings, same data, but runs at the speed of a new system because its on new hardware. To make this transfer everything below must be heeded. Otherwise your only option is a Clean Install on Win7 on the new system.

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    Make sure the new machine has an SSD drive, which is the number one thing that will speed you up.

    The below specs are not in production as of 2019 so you should probably buy a used or refurbished system.

    Make sure the new machine has an intel skylake cpu and NOT a later cpu (like intel kaby lake, intel coffee lake, or amd ryzen - all of which present annoying driver challenges for win7, plus, the fastest skylake cpu is very close in single-user speed to the fastest cpu of 2019 anyway. skylake = 6xxx, kaby lake = 7xxx, coffee lake = 8xxx. I recommend the i7-6700k)

    Make sure the new machine does NOT have a motherboard chipset of 370 or 390. Go with 170 or 270, both of which are driver compatible with Win7.

    If you follow the above, you can clone your old hard drive right onto the new system's ssd drive. The only requirements to ensure compatibility are:

    - make sure your new system's drivers are downloaded onto your old hard drive's desktop before the clone. That way you can load them easily once you boot from the new system.

    - BEFORE shutting down the old system one final time, change its device driver hard drive controller to the "Standard AHCI 1.0" driver. The way to make any Win7 boot drive able to be rebooted on any different win7 hardware system is to make sure you are using the universally-compatible hard drive controller, which is the Standard AHCI 1.0 driver.

    - make sure the hard drive bios setting in your old machine AND your new machine is AHCI. That is, not raid, and not IDE.
    The one glaring flaw with all that is, if the original OS is an OEM (came with the computer), it won't work on a new computer.
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  6. Posts : 1,363
    Win7 pro x64
       #66

    Lady Fitzgerald said:
    if the original OS is an OEM (came with the computer), it won't work on a new computer.
    you said it won't work, but what you meant was it won't activate without a new license. Of course it will work.
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  7. Posts : 1,363
    Win7 pro x64
       #67

    OfficialAlexM said:
    edit: actually, i followed the first link and saw that it's for ASUS Maximus X Hero. I'm on an HP Pavilion Power 580-199ng. Do the instructions work for any model or is it only for the maximus?
    That link applies to Z370 motherboards in general. But I have not read through the whole thing, something you will want to do if you are considering this.
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  8. Posts : 127
    Windows 7 64 bit
       #68

    Move into the future guys....I have W10 on another machine and it's really not that hard to get used to....I'm beginning to like it more then my W7 machine..
    If you keep Windows 7 after the expiration date you are asking for trouble.....
    If you have some programs that you really need to run on W7 and don't need internet then keep it for that and cut the cable.

    Pretend it's a new version of LOL...You'll learn it quick enough.
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  9. Posts : 9
    Windows 10 LTSC 2019, planning to go back to 7
       #69

    Banyarola said:
    Move into the future guys....I have W10 on another machine and it's really not that hard to get used to....I'm beginning to like it more then my W7 machine..
    If you keep Windows 7 after the expiration date you are asking for trouble.....
    If you have some programs that you really need to run on W7 and don't need internet then keep it for that and cut the cable.

    Pretend it's a new version of LOL...You'll learn it quick enough.

    If Windows 10 didn't has this forced v-sync bullshit ****ing up my 144hz/60hz setup, I would like it.
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  10. Posts : 127
    Windows 7 64 bit
       #70

    I am not that familiar with sync but I have read there are ways to disable it in W10...Google it and see what you find if you haven't already.
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