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Windows 7: Legal to use OEM UPGRADE disk on another manufacture pc

28 Nov 2009   #51
gregrocker

 

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Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Frostmourne View Post
Isn't any OEM tied to the mobo you install it on? If I decide to build a new i5 system I'll be getting an OEM x64 version of 7 Ultimate - one that isn't tied to any manufacturer.
That is correct. I purchsed an OEM for my custom built computer from a reputable distributor. It was not tied to anythng. It installed fine. I typed into the program the Key and Microsoft authenicated it. Now the OEM and my computer are tied together, but not before I installed it. == BTW, I was at a Microsoft seminar a couple months ago. I asked one of the Microsoft folks if I could buy an OEM for my custom built computer that presently had an XP OEM on it. His response was that since I qualifed for the XP OEM license, I would also qualify for the Win 7 OEM license.
You are referring to Builder's OEM which are different than Manufacturer's OEM, except that they both become locked to hardware.

One is retail sold to home computer builders to complete their builds. In the past, shops would sell them to someone who bought any other hardware item. Now they are pretty much sold like retail.

Manufacturer's OEM are sold in bulk to computer makers and have batch keys on their stickers which generate a unique key when locked to the mobo. You can detect this unique key by running Belarc Advisor, or else during a reinstall reactivation will be elevated to a robocall where you will trade a series of numbers which allow MS to sort out your unique key from the batch one.


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01 Dec 2009   #52
blankojames

win7/vista both x64
 
 

Ok called OEM whom the free oem upgrade disk came from. They said i could keep the disk even though i dont have the pc any more. And they said i could install on another pc. There would be no driver problems because its just an upgrade disk that comes with a separate driver disk. That it would work and that the key will activate on another motherboard. And they said it is legal. So now here we are win7 upgrade on my other pc Thanks for everyone's help on this subject. It was a hard one.




Win7 blows vista out of the water...........
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01 Dec 2009   #53
Zepher

Windows 7 Ultimate 64bit
 
 

I just received my free Win 7 upgrade from Toshiba and it has both 32bit and 64bit on 1 DVD.
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01 Dec 2009   #54
gregrocker

 

Did Toshiba provide a drivers/apps disk where you can pick which ones you want or do they try to force the bloatware back on you?

They told me on one Vista reinstall that I had to have the bloatware on recovery disk or it would void tech support (but not hardware) warranty.

Did a clean install of Vista anyway getting cam app/driver and other drivers off their product webpage, other needed apps elsewhere.

It's starting to look like MS forced these manufacturers to send clean copies of Win7 DVD, and somehow the apps/drivers disks (for Acer, gateway, HP so far) are unbloated menu disks.

Maybe this is why prices are going up on PC's since they aren't enforcing their sponsored bloatware which previously provided the profit margin.
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01 Dec 2009   #55
Zepher

Windows 7 Ultimate 64bit
 
 

It is just 1 dvd in the case. I haven't checked what is on the DVD yet, and the laptop doesn't need it since I already put Win 7 Pro on in August.
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01 Dec 2009   #56
Frostmourne

Windows 7 Ultimate x86-64
 
 

Hmmm, the disc should say wheter its x86 (32-bit) or x64 (64-bit).
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01 Dec 2009   #57
gregrocker

 

Toshiba may have slipstreamed in the drivers and apps then (with the bloatware??).

Can you explore the DVD to see if it is clean copy, or see if you can boot from it into a normal Win7 installer?

If they slipstreamed it btw then you should be able to remove bloatware in advance (before Ofc trial or Norton get their hooks in) using Attachment 39752, insert any favorite apps/drivers, then recreate ISO and burn to DVD using that great app.

To avoid having to download MS huge WAIK, install latest vLite version over earlier one.
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01 Dec 2009   #58
kronwhon

Windows 7
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by blankojames View Post
Ok called OEM whom the free oem upgrade disk came from. They said i could keep the disk even though i dont have the pc any more. And they said i could install on another pc. There would be no driver problems because its just an upgrade disk that comes with a separate driver disk. That it would work and that the key will activate on another motherboard. And they said it is legal. So now here we are win7 upgrade on my other pc Thanks for everyone's help on this subject. It was a hard one.




Win7 blows vista out of the water...........

Hey guys, I work for MS Licensing. While I'm tempted to agree with Greg (he knows his stuff), this comes from the MS site:

If you canít tell whether a PC or software program qualifies based on the package or associated marketing material, please consult your retailer or PC manufacturer to see if it is included in the program.

http://www.microsoft.com/canada/wind...grade-faq.aspx

If you called me, this is what I would tell you.

Most likely what will happen is the OEM will resell this PC as refurbished, and will not (or should not) offer the upgrade license to the new purchaser. In terms of licensing and legality, MS places the onus squarely on the OEM.

OP, my suggestion to you is to get the OEM's advice in writing, as phone call conversations (even if recorded) are not admissable exceptions to licensing policy.

In terms of technical installation, Greg's advice might prove true. Furthermore, if you have any problems installing, you will be referred to OEM for technical support. In other words, if you try a different manufacturer's MOBO for the new install, it may be technically legal, but the origianl OEM will be responsible for tech support, and will likely be reluctant to provide that support.
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01 Dec 2009   #59
Barman58

Windows 10 Pro x64 x2 Windows 10 Enterprise x64, Ubuntu
 
 

There has been some, (unsubstantiated), reports of certain OEM's providing both x86 and x64 installs on a dual layer DVD.

It could be that Toshiba are one of those - It's an option that was mooted for Microsoft with the retail packs at one time - not followed up probably because a dual layer DVD is more than twice the cost of two single layer and not all DVD units will read dual layer. Newer Toshiba models will of course be dual layer drives
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01 Dec 2009   #60
gregrocker

 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by blankojames View Post
Ok called OEM whom the free oem upgrade disk came from. They said i could keep the disk even though i dont have the pc any more. And they said i could install on another pc. There would be no driver problems because its just an upgrade disk that comes with a separate driver disk. That it would work and that the key will activate on another motherboard. And they said it is legal. So now here we are win7 upgrade on my other pc Thanks for everyone's help on this subject. It was a hard one.




Win7 blows vista out of the water...........
Did it activate? Check Computer>Properties scroll-down. What does it say?
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