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Windows 7: Installing Win7 after end of support

01 Jan 2020   #21
blue skies

Windows 7 Home Premium 64 bit
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Megahertz07 View Post
@blue skies
First of all you must find out if the Lenovo problem is the HDD.
Does it start? Can you enter BIOS?
The Win 7 SLP license is tied to the Motherboard, not to any other component. But if you don't have a Lenovo installation disk to restore Win 7 SLP license you can use any Win 7 installation disk and the license on the COA sticker. Remember that any Win 7 installation disk has all types (HB, HP, Pro and ultimate). With a little trick you can make it universal.
I'm have used some Crucial BX500
They are fast and cheep. So far, so good.
Thank you very much for your reply Megahertz07! There may be additional problems with the Lenovo, but I figured I would definitely want to replace the hard drive even if I got it working... so I am relieved that that won't cause an issue with the Windows 7 license. (I don't know where I read that it would, but I'm glad it was misinformation.)

That is very good to know about the license on the COA sticker. I probably won't get a chance to get it out of the box and see what's going on with it for a while though. It's been years since it failed and I set it aside, but I think the hard drive went first and I was still able to get to the BIOS... but then I think the power supply was also having issues right around that time. I will try booting to my live Linux USB if I get it to start and get into BIOS.

I was reading this thread and thought I'd better ask now in case a lot of posters go away in January. I've loved Windows 7 and will never switch to Windows 10, so I hope this community sticks around a long time. (I've been very grateful for all the help and advice I've received here over the years, and Brink is the best!!)

I plan to keep my laptop, and my Lenovo if I can get it working, on Windows 7 long term. I bought a new mini computer on which I installed Linux Mint which has been fantastic, but I'm not ready to say goodbye to Windows 7 yet - which to me has been the best OS Microsoft has ever released.

Thanks again for your help! :)


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03 Jan 2020   #22
Sidecar Bob

win7 several versions, Win10 home & pro
 
 

Just so you guys know, I haven't forgotten about this thread but I've been busy with family/holiday stuff for the last couple of weeks and recovering from that and working on a couple of other projects since.



1) I am relieved to know that this forum maintains an ISO of the most recent update of Win7 that I will be able to download and use after Jan 14 and that if I do that I won't need to worry about updating a fresh installation.
2) I fully intend to try what TechnoMage suggested in post #6 of this thread but at this point I think I'll wait for the final version of the ISO.





Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by TechnoMage2016 View Post
JFYI, I have several ISO's that I've downloaded, that will NOT fit on an 8GB Flash Drive.

Buying 8GB Flash Drives today, is just a waste of time and money.
I have some 8GB, 16GB and 64GB USB flash drives that I only use for stuff like that. I also have some 8 and 16 GB SD cards that are new in the packages and it is tempting to use one of those but I think I'll stick with a USB drive for this so that I don't have to work through a card reader.



As for smaller USB drives being a waste of money, that all depends on what you are going to use them for. My main use for USB drives is for playing audio while I drive (both of my bikes have stereos with USB/MP3 players). 1GB will hold about 10 hours of music or podcasts so I almost always have a 1GB USB drive in the player (usually with only an hour or 2 on it) and a few more handy. Yes, I could put 16 times as much on a 16 GB drive but it is a lot easier to pull one out and put another in than it is to browse through 160 hours of stuff to find what I want to listen to.
And yes, the 16GB ones you mentioned cost a lot less per GB than the 1GB ones but as long as I can get 1GB for about $1 CAD (75 cents US) including postage I'm not spending a lot for the convenience.
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05 Jan 2020   #23
msalton1

windows 7 Pro 64 Bit
 
 

My 'official' Win 7 SP1 isos were downloaded from MS in 2013. In following SIW2's "update your win 7 installation media", I'll be using these isos. Any issues using these isos that are 7 yrs old (I have all flavors)? Can win 7 isos even be downloaded these days?
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05 Jan 2020   #24
Megahertz07

Windows 7 HP 64
 
 

If you have a Win 7 retail key, yes you can download from M$ Windows 7 ISO Files
The latest release is SP1
Any Win 7 installation disk edition (HB, HP, Pro or ultimate) has all versions on it so you can make it universal renaming ei.cfg from \sources.
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05 Jan 2020   #25
RoWin7

Win 7 Ult 64-bit
 
 

By "retail" you mean bought separately from the computer, as opposed to OEM? I'm putting my next one into a computer my friend built, but he passed on before adding the OS.
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05 Jan 2020   #26
Barman58

Windows 10 Pro x64 1909 - 18363.657 XP/Vista/Win7/Win8.1 in VM for testing
 
 

OEM install media has always been the responsibility of the specific oem, not Microsoft. This can be an issue if the oem is no longer trading, and of course they will usually supply recovery DVD complete with all the bloat.

Best solution for those with an oem licence is to create your own recovery media for you system, with all you mods.

There are many software options available for this, macrium reflect is one but others are available some will even allow transfer to new hardware should the old fail, and you can obtain a suitable device
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05 Jan 2020   #27
RoWin7

Win 7 Ult 64-bit
 
 

It's not OEM, it was bought separately for a build when they were still available.
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06 Jan 2020   #28
Barman58

Windows 10 Pro x64 1909 - 18363.657 XP/Vista/Win7/Win8.1 in VM for testing
 
 

If you have a few systems it may be worthwhile getting some external drives and creating images of the installs including all the software, using something like Macrium reflect. You could then be completely back working after a failure in less than an hour. I would still advise keeping the images up to date when application software updates but with Win7 itself this is not being updated so you could just make the images and store them. If you have to restore the applications could be restored, and updated later.
Of course with Win7 at EOL it may be that applications may not work after they are updated so a fully working backup of system and applications is even more important.
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10 Jan 2020   #29
TechnoMage2016

Windows 7 Professional, SP1, x86
 
 

I guess I've missed something along the way, in the last 40 years that I've been a PC Tech.


I've never noticed that installing an OS had anything to do with MS Updates. At least not for me.
I guess I'm just different. Eh?


Windows 7 is still my favorite OS, but if need be, I can get along with Windows 10, after I spend an hour or so, tweaking and tuning it to look and act like Win-7, and after killing WUDO and disabling Cortana.


Oh, and I permanently disable MS Updates.


Having fun in the Sunshine state!


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10 Jan 2020   #30
RoWin7

Win 7 Ult 64-bit
 
 

NVM
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