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Windows 7: Installing Win7 after end of support

23 Dec 2019   #1
Sidecar Bob

win7 several versions, Win10 home & pro
 
 
Installing Win7 after end of support

I am working on several P4 computers that will mostly be used as music servers so that several people can listen to different music &c in different parts of the house. Unless I work harder than I want to (this project is supposed to be fun) I probably won't get to a couple of them until February.


I've read through a bunch of articles online and several threads here about the end if support and I know that there will be no new updates issued after then but none of them mention what will happen when fresh installations try to update after Jan 14th.


So what will happen if I re-install Win7 on a computer in 3 weeks and it tries to update?


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23 Dec 2019   #2
RoWin7

Win 7 Ult 64-bit
 
 

Judging by what happened to XP, there might still be the old updates online. I say "might" because who knows how M$ thinks. I'm also setting up another one soon.

Will your servers be connected to the web?
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23 Dec 2019   #3
torchwood

W7 home premium 32bit/W7HP 64bit/w10 tp insider ring
 
 

Hi Bob,

there are 2 threads in the installation and set up sub-forum where Up to date "iso's" are currently maintained.
supported by these users SIW2 & Wkeller
Hopefully these will become pinned at that time, @Brink

Once that date is reached you could use either as your input media

Roy
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23 Dec 2019   #4
Brink

64-bit Windows 10 Pro
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by torchwood View Post
Hi Bob,

there are 2 threads in the installation and set up sub-forum where Up to date "iso's" are currently maintained.
supported by these users SIW2 & Wkeller
Hopefully these will become pinned at that time, @Brink

Once that date is reached you could use either as your input media

Roy

Done.

Update your Win 7 installation media.
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23 Dec 2019   #5
Sidecar Bob

win7 several versions, Win10 home & pro
 
 

Thanks. I haven't yet had any luck burning ISOs to CD so that they actually work (this isn't my prime hobby, just a means to an end).



I was wondering if there was a way to save the update files from one computer and run them on another one?
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23 Dec 2019   #6
TechnoMage2016

Windows 7 Professional, SP1, x86
 
 

"Thanks. I haven't yet had any luck burning ISOs to CD so that they actually work"

So to that, I have just one question...."WHY?"

Download and run the latest version of "Rufus". There are several entries you must make, that are pretty self explanatory. In the center of the window will be two settings, side by side, that should be set to "MBR and BIOS".

You'll need a USB drive of larger size than the ISO you're trying to burn. Obvious, Eh?

Then let Rufus do its thing. You DO know, that you have to set your Bios to Boot from USB, right?

So far I've used this exact process at least a half dozen times without a failure.

I've given up burning ISO's to DVD's, since using Rufus for the first time.
Some of the newest ISO's are too big to even fit on a DVD-DL.

Good Luck, and Happy Holidays,
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23 Dec 2019   #7
Sidecar Bob

win7 several versions, Win10 home & pro
 
 

I'll have to try that. Learning to install from an ISO has been on my list but there has always been something more urgent that needed doing instead...



I was taught most of what I know about computers by my son Matt. He was one of those people that fixed other people's computers and fixed up old, discarded computers for people that couldn't afford new ones so he looked after keeping ours running and updating hardware &c and finding or writing software to make them do what we needed them to do. Unfortunately, he died in 2016 (complications of diabetes) and I have had to learn to look after the computers on our home network.

It may not make me popular on this forum but I will confess here that he had just introduced me to Win10 before he died and I am one of the people that absolutely love it. Until then I had XP and it almost seems as if they had tried to make a version of windows that did what I wanted/needed right out of the box without all the stuff Matt had to like making it save things directly to the network drive so I can access it from the computer in the garage and adding a hidden toolbar on the left side of the screen to do what the start menu tiles in 10 do.


Anyway, I have been going through some of his stuff so that I can have another Antique Computers sale in the spring (the proceeds will go to charity and the stuff sold will end up with other guys like him that value older computers) and I came across a pile of Compaq D530 and DC5000 SFF computers (all P4 so no chance of Win10) that looked useful and decided to install Win7 on the ones I can get working and part way through installing the updates on the first one I got the message about the end of support so I started wondering about whether the updates would be available.
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23 Dec 2019   #8
iko22

Windows 7 x64, Vista x64, 8.1 smartphone
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Sidecar Bob View Post
Thanks. I haven't yet had any luck burning ISOs to CD so that they actually work (this isn't my prime hobby, just a means to an end).



I was wondering if there was a way to save the update files from one computer and run them on another one?
You can use another computer to download the updates from Microsoft Update Catalog. This works well for Servicing Stack Updates and Service Packs. But this strategy would be tedious way of downloading all the updates.
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23 Dec 2019   #9
Sidecar Bob

win7 several versions, Win10 home & pro
 
 

By the time I finished telling you long story I forgot what I was getting at: Matt taught me well. One of the first things I do when setting up a computer is look at the boot menu and make sure it looks for removable media before it looks at the hard drive. When he taught me that the wisdom was to look at the floppy drive first in case you had a problem with the hard drive and needed to use the boot disc...
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24 Dec 2019   #10
RoWin7

Win 7 Ult 64-bit
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by TechnoMage2016 View Post
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You'll need a USB drive of larger size than the ISO you're trying to burn. Obvious, Eh?...


How big a flash drive do you need?
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