After last Windows Update Win7 64bit ultimate will not boot

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  1. Posts : 1,384
    Win 7 Ult 64-bit
       #11

    ZakGordon7 said:
    Unlikely (imagine the fallout from that!), but i certainly have stopped trusting MS since Windows 10. Both my Windows 7 machines have been fine since those last updates. They are Pro rather than Ultimate though. It would be strange if this was an Ultimate specific bug, but MS update checking has been terrible these last few years in terms of creating problems for users etc, so it could be that...

    ...it would be interesting to here from more Ultimate users re these last updates etc?
    .....
    I have Ult in both machines, and I heard the last 2 updates triggered a full-page nag screen, so I skipped them.
    Disable Your Windows 7 PC is Out of Support Full Screen Notification
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  2. Posts : 6
    Windows 7 Ulitimate 64 bit
    Thread Starter
       #12

    I have Ult in both machines, and I heard the last 2 updates triggered a full-page nag screen, so I skipped them.
    Disable Your Windows 7 PC is Out of Support Full Screen Notification



    I experienced that screen on my last boot-up. clicked remind me later then got to my traditinal desktop. Clicked on the windows update Icon and saw there was one more important update. proceeded to download and install. then shut down.


    after that the computer will not boot, nor display anything hence why i am here searching for possible answers.


    I have no way of disabling the notification as i cannot get into window, safe mode nor bios.
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  3. Posts : 1,384
    Win 7 Ult 64-bit
       #13

    It's just too much of a coincidence, but I'm not an expert on computer failure. I think , @Brink @Paul Black or @torchwood should look at this.
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  4. Posts : 51
    Windows 7 Ultimate x64 SP1
       #14

    This looks like a hardware failure to me, either in your motherboard, CPU, or even power supply.
    Windows update can't break the BIOS.
    Coincidence? Well more likely the power cycle restart triggered the failure.
    If you can't get into the BIOS, or the BIOS startup screen does not display on restart, the problem is h/w, not Microsoft.
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  5. Posts : 1,384
    Win 7 Ult 64-bit
       #15

    I leave this to wiser heads than mine.
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  6. Posts : 19,383
    Windows 10 Pro x64 ; Xubuntu x64
       #16

    RoWin7 said:
    Is it possible that M$ is disabling computers through that last update? I didn't install that one and my machines are fine.
    There have been some stupid posts in these forums over the years, but this takes the cake 😂
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  7. Posts : 7,107
    W7 home premium 32bit/W7HP 64bit/w10 tp insider ring
       #17

    Hi

    couple of things to try
    question first AS SOON as you boot do you see the cursor VERY briefly, then it dissappears, top left corner

    from a cold boot IMMEDIATELY hit/hold the Escape key, does it give you a bios screen
    next
    Reboot hit escape then your F? bios entry key

    reset bios by removing the CMOS battery


    Roy
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  8. Posts : 6
    Windows 7 Ulitimate 64 bit
    Thread Starter
       #18

    couple of things to try
    question first AS SOON as you boot do you see the cursor VERY briefly, then it dissappears, top left corner

    from a cold boot IMMEDIATELY hit/hold the Escape key, does it give you a bios screen
    next
    Reboot hit escape then your F? bios entry key

    reset bios by removing the CMOS battery

    Nothing ever displays on the screen. so no cursor not even briefly.


    Attempted all that you suggested..... again still nothing.


    In further research i learned that a LED light near the centre of the motherboard is for the CPU. I had originally thought just to indicate that it is on. I believe I have read that when it is lit, it means the cpu or the bios has a problem. Can anyone confirm this? If it is the CPU I presume that would prevent the whole thing from working. Really strange coincidence that the update to re-start miraculously happened to be perfectly timed for one or the other to fail? I fear the last update might have adjusted some setting or code and perhaps did the CPU in.


    I am going to look for an inexpensive AM3 chip to place in the 941 socket (hopefully the same one i have) and see if that remedies the issue.


    any further thoughts from anyone.?


    thanks for the suggestions
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  9. Posts : 49
    Windows 7 Pro 64 Bit, Windows 10 Pro 64 Bit, Linux Mint 20.1 LTS
       #19

    It looks like a hardware issue, which is just coincidence that it occurred around the time you did your update, but nothing to do with Windows. A no-post could be caused by anything from an unseated DRAM module to a full-blown mobo failure. Unfortunately there could be a lot of work involved in trying to locate the cause, unless it's something obvious like a loose DRAM module or unattached cable, eg to the GPU etc.


    I would recommend watching this video (37 mins long) which gives some very helpful ideas as to why no-post can occur, using a Ryzen build as the example.
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  10. Posts : 7,351
    Windows 7 HP 64
       #20

    I had once same problem.
    Unplug the power cable from the power supply, wait 1 minute to discharge the capacitors.
    Open the case side panel and remove the memories. Gently clean the memory contacts and spray the slots with a contact cleaner.
    Insert one stick at a time and try to boot (leave the computers without drives)
    If it boots, power off, Unplug the power cable from the power supply, wait 1 minute to discharge the capacitors and insert another stick etc

    Do you have a MB speaker? Can you hear an beep?
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