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Windows 7: Validating Windows 7

3 Weeks Ago   #1
taid

Windows 10 1909 64 bit
 
 
Validating Windows 7

Hello,

I'm new on here. I run a W10 machine so I've been frequenting TenForums for a good while where I've had some great help. However I do have a situation which involves W7 and I'm wondering if anyone could possibly help...

Going through a large collection of old discs a few weeks ago I came across a Windows 7 disc – with the key. Whilst this was not an original MS disc I assumed someone had (legitimately?) copied it just in case their original MS disc got lost or damaged. I’ve no recollection of where it came from. At a previous place of work all staff members were entitled to a copy of the current MS OS for use on their office/lab pc's. I seem to remember they were also allowed a second copy for installing on a home machine (possibly for a nominal sum) as lots of staff members worked at home, writing reports etc etc. I’d sort of assumed that this is where the W7 disc originated from and never given it any more thought. I recently went on one of the MS sites to try and find out more about the OS/key and got the following information:

W7 Home Premium SP1 COEM GGK which doesn’t mean much to me…

Now my daughter has an old HP laptop with Vista installed and so I installed the W7 on the laptop merely as an exercise really to see if it would run. I duly pasted the key when asked and the software activated without any problems.

Seeing that updating the laptop had gone so well I thought I'd try it with an old Dell Dimension running XP which I have here which is hardly ever used – I just can’t get myself to bin it. I created a dual boot, keeping the old XP and installed W7 on the second partition and everything appeared to go well. However when I pasted the key to activate W7 it was refused with the error – 0xC004C008 – ‘The product Key you typed cannot be used to activate Windows on this computer’. I re-installed W7 a second time but the end result is the same – it won’t validate. Is this because it's was previously validated when I installed it on the laptop? I appreciate that it should not be possible to run multiple copies of the software but I seem to remember that this 'was' possible with the software we got at work, though presumably it should only have been used on two machines.

Now whether I can keep W7 on the old Dell or not is pretty irrelevant – it would be nice if I could – but I’m curious as to why it installed and activated on the laptop without any problems but refused to activate on the Dell. Incidentally W7 appears to run perfectly on the Dell, lots of updates were downloaded and installed, including drivers. I have an ‘elderly’ monitor with a square screen so I needed to play around with the screen res but other than that the Dell is happy with W7, a bit slow maybe…

As an aside. On the screen where I validate the software it gives a Product ID. Now I assumed this referred to the actual software but it’s different on the Dell to the laptop, and when I re-installed it’s different again. A simple reason I’m sure but it just goes to confirm that my computer knowledge is pretty basic!


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3 Weeks Ago   #2
Bree

Windows 7 Home Premium x64
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by taid View Post
W7 Home Premium SP1 COEM GGK which doesn’t mean much to me…
Some explanation of what COEM means here...


Why does Microsoft have distinct ISO files for COEM & Standard W7 OS?

What is a COEM license?
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3 Weeks Ago   #3
taid

Windows 10 1909 64 bit
 
 
Validating Windows 7

Thanks Bree…

I’d already visited one of those links before but found the information rather confusing.

From reading the links I assumed that the W7 disc was a system builder disc and the fact that it installed and activated on the old HP Vista laptop without any problems would seem to confirm that. What I couldn't understand was why it couldn't be activated on the old Dell XP machine. I upgraded to a new Dell W10 machine some time ago so it's all pretty irrelevant, I was merely curious - and intrigued why the OS activated on one machine and not on the other…

Thanks again for your input.
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3 Weeks Ago   #4
GoldenDog

Windows 7 Home 32 bit
 
 

It is possible that that disk has some high-level security that makes it not able to be installed twice.
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3 Weeks Ago   #5
RolandJS

Windows 7 Professional 64-bit
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by GoldenDog View Post
It is possible that that disk has some high-level security that makes it not able to be installed twice.
Excellent question! In the old days, many but not all 5.25" or 3.5" Installs wrote back onto said Floppy during the allowed number of Installs, once allowed reached, no more installs. If we're talking about DVDs, the only thing I can think of: somehow the Install right then, or eventually, "called home" and registered the install to said computer.
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3 Weeks Ago   #6
GoldenDog

Windows 7 Home 32 bit
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by RolandJS View Post
...the only thing I can think of: somehow the Install right then, or eventually, "called home" and registered the install to said computer...
that being said I would say that DVD is corrupt and useless. (sorry)
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3 Weeks Ago   #7
torchwood

W7 home premium 32bit/W7HP 64bit/w10 tp insider ring
 
 

Hi

The code is reporting allready in use, therefor you cannot use it on a second machine.

As to what type of licence MS deems it as, run the Mgadiag tool from here
https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkID=56062

seventh line down
Windows Product ID Type: X
5 = retail and therefor transferable

Roy
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3 Weeks Ago   #8
RoWin7

Win 7 Ult 64-bit
 
 

The one at work installs on multiple computers because it has a VLK--Volume License Key, made just for that purpose.
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2 Weeks Ago   #9
RoWin7

Win 7 Ult 64-bit
 
 

It's not useless. If you ever have to reinstall Win7 on the laptop, the DVD is perfectly good, with the original product key.
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