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Windows 7: Windows 7 not booting without a USB

1 Week Ago   #11
Megahertz07

Windows 7 HP 64
 
 

On my laptop, only the Windows folder is 24G.
The SSD is too small to have Windows and it seems you can't boot from it. I think it couldn't install all needed files on it.
An option is to install Win 7 on the HDD and use the SSD as a cache drive with intel IRST.


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1 Week Ago   #12
Barman58

Windows 10 Pro x64 1909 - 18363.657 XP/Vista/Win7/Win8.1 in VM for testing
 
 

The SSD appears to be more like an Optane Memory Module, from Intel. This system a virtual Raid array used to provide a fast data buffer for a single conventional Hard Disk Drive,

The same result can be achieved by purposely built Hybrid HDD products.

Optane Memory allows this technology to be added to devices of all sizes, including a more conventional SSDs, (optane memory is available in various sizes to suit various drive sizes),

To be used it needs to be set-up using tools available from Intel, once set up the drive is used as a conventional drive, the drivers installed control the data flow through the Buffer of the Optane Memory

I use a 32 GB Optane Memory module on my main 8TB data drive on my current desktop, to improve transfer coordination between my M2 & SSD drives and data store.

If it is what I suspect Once setup the drive, in this, case can simply be used as would a normal hard drive
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1 Week Ago   #13
imamul

Windows 7 Home Premium 32bit
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Megahertz07 View Post
On my laptop, only the Windows folder is 24G.
The SSD is too small to have Windows and it seems you can't boot from it. I think it couldn't install all needed files on it.
An option is to install Win 7 on the HDD and use the SSD as a cache drive with intel IRST.
Thanks, i havent got anything to lose so will try this out.

Appreciate the info Barman58, im assuming another option would be to install the relevant Intel drives of software?
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1 Week Ago   #14
Barman58

Windows 10 Pro x64 1909 - 18363.657 XP/Vista/Win7/Win8.1 in VM for testing
 
 

You would need to confirm that what I described is indeed the case, if it is (check the specs of the device or If you are confident about it go to the device manager in windows and look for Intel entries in the drives section

Drivers are available on line Downloads for Intel(R) Optane™ Memory
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1 Week Ago   #15
Megahertz07

Windows 7 HP 64
 
 

Optane is a cache drive.

Install Win 7 on the HDD.
Install all drivers.
When everything is working properly, install IRST

Set IRST to make the small SSD work as a cache
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1 Week Ago   #16
Megahertz07

Windows 7 HP 64
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Barman58 View Post
You would need to confirm that what I described is indeed the case, if it is (check the specs of the device or If you are confident about it go to the device manager in windows and look for Intel entries in the drives section

Drivers are available on line Downloads for Intel(R) Optane™ Memory
Nigel, for what I know, Optane only works with Win 10
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1 Week Ago   #17
Barman58

Windows 10 Pro x64 1909 - 18363.657 XP/Vista/Win7/Win8.1 in VM for testing
 
 

I've just checked and you are correct, as far as the way I described it working,

If you have a motherboard that supports the modules you can set it up as a manual cache using superfetch, which will improve performance. Another option is to use it for the pagefile location - once the pagefile is activated it will be faster than a conventional HDD. Basically it would work as emergency extra RAM
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1 Week Ago   #18
imamul

Windows 7 Home Premium 32bit
 
 

Bit late guys, but i do think Barman is onto something.

So first i did what MHz said and installed Windows onto the HDD, other than having 2 copies of Windows it didnt affect the boot so the issue remained.

After this i found another possible solution, to wipe everything, set up a seperate 100mb partition, install windows and let it create a system reserved, then copy the files from the reserved partition to the partition i created using bcdboot.

This is tied in with Samsungs SSD and how Windows auto selects this as the boot but the iSSD is inaccessible.

Anyway i did all this still to no success.

I even did an XCOPY of the system reserved partition onto my pre created partition and still no win.

I did do a DIR \A D: and can see that the system reserved partition does hold the boot files. For some reason Windows on a Samsung cant access or load it.

Link to the guide i used:

GUIDE: How to install Windows 7 or 8 via USB on NP700Z* | NotebookReview
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1 Week Ago   #19
Barman58

Windows 10 Pro x64 1909 - 18363.657 XP/Vista/Win7/Win8.1 in VM for testing
 
 

When you installed onto the HDD or added the boot partition did you go into the bios and set the system to boot from the drive with the boot files on? The system must be told where to find the boot files, especially if the drives have changed in any way. To do this the drive with the boot on must be set to first in the bios drive order
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1 Week Ago   #20
GoldenDog

Windows 7 Home 32 bit
 
 

does this work with any bootable USB?
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