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Windows 7: Is It Best Not To Use PC As Admin User Now Win7 Not Supported by MS?

1 Week Ago   #11
woodbine

Windows 7 Home Premium 64 bit SP1
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Barman58 View Post
Yes, open control panel type UAC into the search box, it should come back with a link to the settings and also a link to the help page for how and what to see, which is good to read before you choose an option

I had a look at UAC on control panel and the setting is next one down from 'always notify'.


Yes, my user account is the only one that's ever been on this computer from new. I had a look and can't tell if it is dual admin/standard from the screen shot below. Looks like only admin.




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1 Week Ago   #12
Barman58

Windows 10 Pro x64 1909 - 18363.657 XP/Vista/Win7/Win8.1 in VM for testing
 
 

It looks like all the settings are correct so you have a secure setup already - you should see a prompt occasionally when you are setting the more security based settings - so you already are running a more convenient version of the Admin / Standard user system that was recommended in the article you read, and, unlike many, actually acted upon
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1 Week Ago   #13
woodbine

Windows 7 Home Premium 64 bit SP1
 
 

Thanks Barman, that's good news.

So the boxes that appear saying "do you want to allow XXXXXXX to make changes to your computer?" when I do something like add a new programme - are the boxes that will protect my pc if anything tries to attack it? And because these boxes appear to ask my permission, I have the correct settings?
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1 Week Ago   #14
Barman58

Windows 10 Pro x64 1909 - 18363.657 XP/Vista/Win7/Win8.1 in VM for testing
 
 

Yes, you should see less of them as time goes by and the system learns your usage patterns, when the box is on screen the only thing allowed is to type the password locally on the system, so a virus or other malware could not do this.

also if you see something trigger a box asking for permission, when you are doing something else, you can check out the details and either accept or deny access, deny is usually the safest until you check on what the triggering app is trying to do.

Often installing an app will add other "supposedly helpful" apps without informing you - if these are deemed dangerous the popup gives you control
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6 Days Ago   #15
woodbine

Windows 7 Home Premium 64 bit SP1
 
 

Thanks. The box that appears never asks for my password. I can't ever remember having to use a password on this pc. The box just asks if I want to allow changes to my computer or not.
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6 Days Ago   #16
Barman58

Windows 10 Pro x64 1909 - 18363.657 XP/Vista/Win7/Win8.1 in VM for testing
 
 

The system is set up to ask you when you open an application that has Potential to make a change to system items, thinking behind this is that if the application cannot do any damage then it's fine not to ask you.

The problem that we have is that malware impersonates the user on the system, if all this user can do is things like create a folder or change the colour of the background there is no danger to the system, if however you are an administrator you and therefore malware impersonating you can do serious damage or add malicious programs,

The special screen and the password requirement which has to be entered on the keyboard attached to the system and is the only thing allowed to be done, stops the malware from taking control.

I spent many years years running networked systems in industry , and using the dual user technique. I will say that I did run as admin at times, for longer than would be safe today, but of course there were not the threats that we have now, the main reason for not running as an admin all the time, was you could leave your desk and not be concerned with another user using the system and doing damage
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5 Days Ago   #17
Barman58

Windows 10 Pro x64 1909 - 18363.657 XP/Vista/Win7/Win8.1 in VM for testing
 
 

If a standard user account tries to open an application, or if a non logged in user does so, it will prompt for the password. If the current logged in admin user attempts to access something potentially dangerous it will just ask for confirmation.
The frequency of the prompt and how often the password is needed is dependent on the level set on the UAC settings. The lower down the list UAC is set the less prompts you will see, but the less secure the system will be. The second from the top has been found the best balance for normal home use, the top level is better in a secure environment some home users set to third level and thus see fewer prompts..

UAC can be switched off but you then return to the base security levels of XP which was designed before the explosion of malware we have today, and as the OS is designed around the UAC, switching it off can cause odd behaviour so Microsoft advises against this
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