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Windows 7: Is It Best Not To Use PC As Admin User Now Win7 Not Supported by MS?

1 Week Ago   #1
woodbine

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Is It Best Not To Use PC As Admin User Now Win7 Not Supported by MS?

I read an article the other day about the demise of Win7. They recommended that if still using Win7, you shouldn't be logged on as an administrator user. They said that this was basically handing the keys to anyone who attacked your pc now that MS aren't doing security updates/patches. The article said that Win7 users should be logged on as ordinary users, and only log on as an admin for as little time as possible to carry out tasks that need this.


Is this good advice, or are they worrying unnecessarily?


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1 Week Ago   #2
NoN

Windows 7 Professional SP1 - x64 [Non-UEFI Boot]
 
 

Would be nice to have the link of the article you readed...thanks
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1 Week Ago   #3
Barman58

Windows 10 Pro x64 1909 - 18363.657 XP/Vista/Win7/Win8.1 in VM for testing
 
 

It's always been good advice I used to follow this system for many years when running Large IT systems, Microsoft however has made things slightly easier for us since Vista .

If you make sure to set set up your user as a regular admin, with a password, ( the first user that is created when you install windows is set up this way), and you make sure that UAC is set to the second from the top, you will actually run as a standard user and will be asked for your password if you try to do something that needs more rights than a standard user. If you are the only admin on the system it will usually only ask for confirmation, after a few password entries.

If a non admin tries to access something that is admin required, the screen locks and requires the full password entry at the connected keyboard, which is very difficult to impossible to do in software

The reason for this security method is that any malware, (virus Etc), takes the powers of the user it infects, so if you run as an admin it can do more damage than it can if it infects the standard user this system runs at
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1 Week Ago   #4
woodbine

Windows 7 Home Premium 64 bit SP1
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by NoN View Post
Would be nice to have the link of the article you readed...thanks

Sorry, I tried to find it, but it's well hidden somewhere out there on the web.
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1 Week Ago   #5
woodbine

Windows 7 Home Premium 64 bit SP1
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Barman58 View Post
It's always been good advice I used to follow this system for many years when running Large IT systems, Microsoft however has made things slightly easier for us since Vista .

If you make sure to set set up your user as a regular admin, with a password, ( the first user that is created when you install windows is set up this way), and you make sure that UAC is set to the second from the top, you will actually run as a standard user and will be asked for your password if you try to do something that needs more rights than a standard user. If you are the only admin on the system it will usually only ask for confirmation, after a few password entries.

If a non admin tries to access something that is admin required, the screen locks and requires the full password entry at the connected keyboard, which is very difficult to impossible to do in software

The reason for this security method is that any malware, (virus Etc), takes the powers of the user it infects, so if you run as an admin it can do more damage than it can if it infects the standard user this system runs at

Thanks for your reply, Barman.


I'm the only user on my pc, and obviously set to admin. What should I do to make things more secure? Change my user account to standard user? Then set up another user account as admin?
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1 Week Ago   #6
Barman58

Windows 10 Pro x64 1909 - 18363.657 XP/Vista/Win7/Win8.1 in VM for testing
 
 

If it's the first account that you created when you installed Windows (or when the builder did this), it should already be set as a Dual Admin/Standard user

You just need to open settings and type "UAC" into the search bar that will show the User Account control menu - I always advise to set this to one below the top setting which gives a good prompt setting level, you will not be prompted for most admin tasks but will for the most "dangerous" which is what a Virus etc wants access to.

It's possible to set it lower than this but the danger to your data increases with each selection
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1 Week Ago   #7
Bree

Windows 7 Home Premium x64
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by woodbine View Post
I'm the only user on my pc, and obviously set to admin. What should I do to make things more secure? Change my user account to standard user? Then set up another user account as admin?

The other way round. You must set up another account as an administrator first!


If you demote your only administrator account to a standard user you'll not be able to set up any more accounts (or do anything else that needs admin privileges).
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1 Week Ago   #8
woodbine

Windows 7 Home Premium 64 bit SP1
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Barman58 View Post
You just need to open settings and type "UAC" into the search bar

Thanks Barman. Which settings are those and where do I find them? Control panel?
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1 Week Ago   #9
woodbine

Windows 7 Home Premium 64 bit SP1
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Bree View Post
The other way round. You must set up another account as an administrator first!


If you demote your only administrator account to a standard user you'll not be able to set up any more accounts (or do anything else that needs admin privileges).

Good advice, Bree. Will do it that way.
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1 Week Ago   #10
Barman58

Windows 10 Pro x64 1909 - 18363.657 XP/Vista/Win7/Win8.1 in VM for testing
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by woodbine View Post
Thanks Barman. Which settings are those and where do I find them? Control panel?
Yes, open control panel type UAC into the search box, it should come back with a link to the settings and also a link to the help page for how and what to see, which is good to read before you choose an option
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