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Windows 7: Windows 7 issues/crashes at boot/startup

08 Mar 2020   #11
iko22

Windows 7 x64, Vista x64, 8.1 smartphone
 
 

Hello Paul Gaugain,
Dont worry about repair install because now You have two options:

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I've managed to create an Installation USB with SP1, the same as mine.

An Upgrade Install was impossible since I can't boot in WIndows.
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I forgot to mention that i changed the machine recently - I moved my HDDs to a new machine. Now I try to repair Windows on this new architecture.

...
So the problem in fact is double complicated - broken Windows and new hardware. My chances to repair my working medium before failure are minimal... ((

Or moving a HDD with Windows to another PC is OK?
Either
Use Installation USB on original computer, and perform Repair Your Computer from Windows Recovery Environment.
See How to start the Windows 7 Recovery Environment | bleeping computer.
And/or
Run SFC/Scannow (on external drive) see @Megahertz07 post for more information.
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08 Mar 2020   #12
Megahertz07

Windows 7 HP 64
 
 

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@Megahertz07, yes I can enter BIOS.

I forgot to mention that i changed the machine recently - I moved my HDDs to a new machine. Now I try to repair Windows on this new architecture.

I have probably to use some software like Paragon Adaptive Restore...
So the problem in fact is double complicated - broken Windows and new hardware. My chances to repair my working medium before failure are minimal... ((

Or moving a HDD with Windows to another PC is OK?
You are trying to boot a HDD with Win 7 that was on an old computer on a new one?
That is not an easy task. New hardware requires new drivers that are not on the HDD.

If you attached the Win 7 drive to a new machine just to try to repair is OK. Don't try to boot from it or you may ruin the Win 7 on the drive.

So, what you want to do, repair Win 7 to run on the old computer or make it run on the new one?
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08 Mar 2020   #13
Paul Gaugain

Windows 7 Ultimate x86 + x64
 
 

SFC/Scannow didn't really helped in this case.

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You are trying to boot a HDD with Win 7 that was on an old computer on a new one?
That is not an easy task. New hardware requires new drivers that are not on the HDD.
Yes. I try to boot my old HDD with Windows 7 on a new computer.

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If you attached the Win 7 drive to a new machine just to try to repair is OK. Don't try to boot from it or you may ruin the Win 7 on the drive.
Already tried a couple of days...

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So, what you want to do, repair Win 7 to run on the old computer or make it run on the new one?
The old PC is gone, I'm trying to make the HDD with Windows 7 to run on on the new one.
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08 Mar 2020   #14
Paul Gaugain

Windows 7 Ultimate x86 + x64
 
 

So, there is some progress.
I've made a bootable USB stick with Paragon Adaptive Restore and thanks to Paragon P2P Adjust OS I've fixed the cloned version of my original Windows 7 and now it works (on another HDD - IDE).
Also with Paragon Adaptive Restore I fixed another old unrelated Windows version about I told in post#1, struck text.

But... I can't manage yet to fix my original Windows 7. Paragon doesn't boot when that HDD (1TB Western Digital SATA) is conected to PC. When I swap and connect instead another HDD (160 GB Maxtor SATA) Paragon is booting ok and works fine.

Compare the momment where it stucked Even with a single HDD connected (my main 1TB Western Digital), Paragon Adaptive Restore stuck at some point and does not boot properly - https://funkyimg.com/i/32XbC.jpg


I think to try now some alternative of Paragon P2P Adjust OS
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09 Mar 2020   #15
Paul Gaugain

Windows 7 Ultimate x86 + x64
 
 

So here are the disks details.

The current first HDD (160GB IDE).
Volume 2 - C - is the OS on that I am sitting now - a clone of my original OS (Windows 7 x86) from the second HDD
On Volume 1 also was an Win 7 OS x64, and it became broken (but I don't really care of it).
Notice below the Volume 0 - D - System Reserved.
Is it safe and possible to merge the System Reserved partition from the first disk into partition C, without any side effects? Or to change its letter without any side effects?


The second HDD (1TB SATA)
On Volume 3 - E - C - is my original OS (Windows 7 x86) about I was talking here, broken for a week now. This is the one I'd like to restore.
Should it be marked with Boot as well?
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12 Mar 2020   #16
Paul Gaugain

Windows 7 Ultimate x86 + x64
 
 

What shows Acronis

On Disk1 there are 2 Windows on two partitions.
On Disk2 (my main old) is a Windows on the C(E:). Should I assign to this volume a "System" status? Maybe this is the cause that it's non-bootable now?
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12 Mar 2020   #17
Megahertz07

Windows 7 HP 64
 
 

On OEM computers you boot to a "System" (Active) partition and then it transfers the boot sequence to the Windows partition (boot)
Your F: partition is already set as Active and boot. That is all you need.

Please edit your profile with all the new computer hardware specs. It will help us to help you.
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16 Mar 2020   #18
Paul Gaugain

Windows 7 Ultimate x86 + x64
 
 

Here is the graphical representation of my drives and OS

So, I still have a broken non-bootable original OS, and a WORKING clone of it. The cloning was done after the original OS became non-bootable.

There should be a problem either with Boot sector, BCD data, MBR. I don't know very well these things.
I've just ran one more time the Paragon OS Adjust on the original non-bootale Windows, but it didn't fixed it.

If I try to boot directly from the HDD with my original Windows, it stops booting on a black screen with a blinking underscore (probably before Windows Boot Manager).

If I boot another HDD with the cloned Windows:
-- it has a Windows Boot Manager with an option pointing also to my original Windows from the another HDD
---I can boot perfectly from here the Working clone
--- But trying to boot the original Windows from the another HDD, I get stuck on a black screen (with no cursor/underscore) and no signs that Windows is loading.
So if Windows isn't loading, this is why I suspect a BootSector, BCD, MBR problem.
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16 Mar 2020   #19
Paul Gaugain

Windows 7 Ultimate x86 + x64
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by iko22 View Post
If you had a Installation DVD or System Repair DVD
then you could boot to that, and use the System Recovery Options via the Disk.

Try my suggestion, and make note of any error messages.

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by iko22 View Post
Dont worry about repair install because now You have two options:


Either
Use Installation USB on original computer, and perform Repair Your Computer from Windows Recovery Environment.
See How to start the Windows 7 Recovery Environment | bleeping computer.
And/or
Run SFC/Scannow (on external drive) see @Megahertz07 post for more information.
So, with the Installation media I tried to do the repair. It couldn't repair anything. After that I entered in CMD mode and ran Bootrec.exe /FixMBR, then /fixboot, then /rebuildbcd

There was a strange message:
Total identified Windows installations: 0



After that I ran bootsect /nt60 SYS /MBR

And anyway, the problem still persist.
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16 Mar 2020   #20
Megahertz07

Windows 7 HP 64
 
 

Please edit your profile with all the new computer hardware specs. It will help us to help you.
User Profiles - Create and Move During Windows 7 Installation - Windows 7 Help Forums
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