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Windows 7: Retiring Windows 7 Anyone Else?

30 Nov 2009   #51
jimbo45

Linux CENTOS 7 / various Windows OS'es and servers
 
 

Hi all
my take on all this is that YES there are 3 main probs that can easily be remedied - but you have to know ablut them first.

1) That annoying 100MB or so system partition -- this is a REAL nuisance to those that like to create an OS in a SINGLE partition only -- this can play havoc with Image backups and restores as you have to set THIS as the active partition and the "Main" OS partition as a prmary partition.

It's now a question of space -- 100MB on a 500GB drive is nothing -- it's just the spreading of the OS over more than 1 partition that's the problem.

OK this is fixed by ensuring ALL partitions exist BEFORE installing the OS -- even if the parttion is empty - use GPARTED or whatever to create a partition of the size you want BEFORE installing.

2) Drivers -- not MS's fault - but there is a LOT of perfectly serviceable hardware out there which doesn't yet need to be thrown away.

Run an XP virtual machine for these applications. I still have a scanner, a Minidisc recorder, an HP plotter etc -- all work fine on an XP virtual machine.

3) Old vs new menu / interface -- this can be a bugbear but can be got used to very quickly and the new quick search etc makes it well worth while the switch.

The only things IMO that probably could work better are legacy games - but not being a gamer this area has no interest for me.

Running an XP virtual machine and fixing the "Partition" problem gripe above should be sufficient in around 99% of the "reluctant users" category - so really there's no reason NOT to switch for most people - just take a little care first.

Cheers
jimbo


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30 Nov 2009   #52
musiclover7

Windows 7 Ultimate
 
 

I use both XP and 7 side by side nearly every day. I run 7 on my office personal computer, and I run XP on my company laptop. I do not find myself missing anything on my 7 machine that I can do on my XP laptop, but I move a lot of files over to my 7 machine from XP, because I prefer working with them there (22 inch monitor vs 15.5 inch monitor could also be a factor). It is not perfect, and everyone has their preference, but for me, 7 trumps xp in ease of use, once you get all the 3rd party apps you are used to installed, and get it configured to your liking.. To each his/her own.. XP is a great OS, but I like 7 better. Small things, like being able to see the meta-data on an mp3 file when I highlight it in explorer, really add up over time.. I feel more efficient working on the 7 machine, but that is just me..
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30 Nov 2009   #53
go0gle

WIN 7 pro
 
 

My Asus f3jr runs much better with W7 compared to XP. I guess everything is about the drivers.. in my case they all work.
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30 Nov 2009   #54
netguysc

windows 7
 
 

Theway I see it you gave Windows 7 a very fair chance to win your heart and mind. You seem to have several reasons that are good enough for you to go back to XP and you explained them well.

I do not see your post as dissing Windows 7 just because it isn't XP, you presented a logical reason why you dislike 7.

It is refreshing to see a post such as yours, instead of the usual 'I hate 7..even though I haven't given it a chance" banter
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30 Nov 2009   #55
harpua

Windows 7 Ultimate x64 (Retail)
 
 

I just installed 7 on a 5 year old T42p laptop which is just a back up machine for me now. It runs great, except there is an intermittent screen flicker that did not exist under XP. I suspect it is the video driver but there is no updated driver for the old ATI video adapter on this machine that I know of. I suspect if I put some time and effort into finding a solution for the screen flicker, I probably will eventually. Otherwise, 7 works great on it and the machine feels like a new laptop with 7, and quite snappy too.
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30 Nov 2009   #56
martytoo

Windows 7 Enterprise 64 Bit
 
 

My system specs are remarkably similar to those listed in your posts. I have no Driver problems under W7 (Enterprise 64 Bit)at all no software compatibility issues either. you mentioned the lack of drivers for your scanner but unless I've overlooked it you don't say what scanner it is. have you tried Vista drivers they seem to work quite often under 7
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30 Nov 2009   #57
Sbrideau

Windows 10 Pro / OpenSUSE
 
 

Quite fun to see someone that gives legit reasons to switch back without dissing the OS. I guess you will just try it later when it's matured (I think that's what you said).

I've personnally never had problems on my over 3 year old hp desktop when It was the Beta and RC that was installed on it in dual boot with vista, which is now the only OS on my desktop.

I personnally am never going back to XP, since Vista works very well on this machine (better than XP ever did) and also have 7 on my laptop which works like a charm.

I agree that XP was a good OS though, but as time goes by, you will eventually have to make the switch.
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30 Nov 2009   #58
sygnus21

Windows 10 Pro
 
 

Based on this statement....

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Xzaviar View Post
Sevenforums would not be so wildly popular or even exist if 7 were as perfect as the guru's claim it to be!
we wouldn't need teachers or education now, would we?

Windows 7 isn't perfect, nor was any other OS. And most of the issues described here can be fixed, maybe not all, but most.

I have no problem with people saying they'd rather stick with or downgrade to an older OS over Windows 7, there are some valid reasons for doing so, but some are just trivial drivel

And FYI, some Vista drivers will work in W7 – ATI’s TV tuner drivers for the TV Wonder Pro HD 650. So, if you can’t find a W7 driver, try Vista; it can’t hurt.

Just my two cents

P.S. Here's "perfect" XP's forums - windows xp forums - Google Search
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30 Nov 2009   #59
mushroomboy

Windows 7, Linux
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by sygnus21 View Post
Based on this statement....

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Xzaviar View Post
Sevenforums would not be so wildly popular or even exist if 7 were as perfect as the guru's claim it to be!
we wouldn't need teachers or education now, would we?

Windows 7 isn't perfect, nor was any other OS. And most of the issues described here can be fixed, maybe not all, but most.

I have no problem with people saying they'd rather stick with or downgrade to an older OS over Windows 7, there are some valid reasons for doing so, but some are just trivial drivel

And FYI, some Vista drivers will work in W7 – ATI’s TV tuner drivers for the TV Wonder Pro HD 650. So, if you can’t find a W7 driver, try Vista; it can’t hurt.

Just my two cents

P.S. Here's "perfect" XP's forums - windows xp forums - Google Search
Well with newer and newer hardware coming out I'm willing to bet XP will phase out soon, so it's probably good you posted those forums... hahaha
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30 Nov 2009   #60
whs
Microsoft MVP

Vista, Windows7, Mint Mate, Zorin, Windows 8
 
 

Quote:
Programs that run flawlessly on XP either won't run on 7 or take a "geek of the year finalist" to get them to run
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