Win "10" and "11"

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  1. Posts : 241
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       #31

    Going to try out Win 10 in RAID 0


    PULLED the trigger on two of these >> WD Black SN770 SSD Review: A Wolf in Sheep's Clothing (Updated) | Tom's Hardware

    I'm curious to see how well they'll work in my personal AMD build.
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       #32

    Just to note the mentioned hard drive is SAS and there fore won't work in most desktops. It's designed for servers.
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       #33

    Sata/sas - break out the budget ;)


    townsbg said:
    Just to note the mentioned hard drive is SAS and there fore won't work in most desktops. It's designed for servers.
    Hmmm.. Not so sure about that. Article here says: "According to Seagate's official specifications, the SATA drives can sustain a maximum transfer rate of 545 MBps. The SAS drives can go up to 554 MBps in sequential reading/writing IO operations."

    Seagate claims Mach.2-enabled Exos 2X18 is the world's fastest hard disk | TechSpot

    So you've got your choice between SAS or SATA. It's those double actuators that I find dubious. Moving parts only last so long. I also noticed the limited warranty. Not really impressed. Still, I don't think they'll be taking it to the domestic end user level any time soon — if at all. I can hardly see why they would. Even for a home server methinks SSDs would be more practical IMO.
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       #34

    The prob with those 80mm fans is that they're power hungry and very noisy. Enough to make my basement sound like a server room. But they are very efficient at keeping things cool. I have a large box full of the annoying things. Indubitably, liquid cooling might provide an effective alternative but personally, I've never been a big fan of liquid cooling and likely never will be despite what the fan bois have to say about it.

    As for NVMe, I was once a big fan of the stuff but now I have reservations as a recent experience with NVMe just cost me 20 hard drives worth of data to run forensics on. I had to run a Windows System Image recovery (for Win 8.1) and it would not recover because a critical file, namely, IaNVMe.sys, was missing. After running Intel's fix for this particular QLC/Optane issue, my attempt at restoring two partitions resulted in 20 drives all written over with new partitions. Simply put, my backup took out all my other backups and nearly all my drives on my work station. Interestingly, this catastrophic system failure failed to take out my Win 7 U. So now what is left of my data hangs on being restored with an EOL OS. . . The last real operating system made by Microsoft.
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       #35

    billmcct said:
    I'm sorry guys , but I have to ask: What is an Operating System? I always thought an "OPERATING SYSTEM" was to run the hardware on the computer. I'm sorry but I really don't like anything released after Win 7 because they seem to think the "OS" is a catchall to install "M$" crap software (and other crap s**t that's "UNWANTED" basically referring to "METRO" crap). Win 7 had a lot of s**t that needed to be deleted (like "AERO"), that, being as I am "OLD and almost blind" just looked F***ed up to me) but hey even Win 8 had even 10 times more "S**T". I have used Win 8.1 and 10 and 11 in VMs and all I can see is that they're actually, (a piece of S**T). "WAY TOO MUCH ADDED CRAP". I really don't think an "OS" should be a catchall for "EVERYTHING" (when is M$ going to add the kitchen sink?). I am all for "SUPPORTING EVERYTHING". Hey, I'm 81 YO and since maybe (if I'm lucky) I can get another 3 years of updates for Win 7 (yet to be seen) maybe I wont "DIE" before that's over. I don't know Guys and Gals, but I really need to know that there is at least one person out there that feels that an "OPERATING SYSTEM" should "NOT" be a catchall for every piece of crap software they can include with it. Sorry but I always thought software was developed to "ENHANCE" an operating system and not to be included in it. Sorry folks, I know this is nothing but a "RANT" but, hey I will be more than happy to see any replies to this.
    Each rendition of Windows has ever more corporate malware/spyware/crapware packed into it than the preceding one. It's a longstanding tradition with M$, as is releasing (or should I say unleashing?) half-baked OSes with more security holes than a colander. That will never change, nor will the fanboys ever tire of playing apologist or cheerleader. Things are as they are.

    I recently switched from XP Pro to Win 7, not exactly willingly, but it's a done deal now. I can foresee the same tactics used to force me to give up XP, now being brought to bear on Win 7, so I have fast-tracked my study of MX Linux. If Win 7 is sabotaged, I'll be ready to move on to Linux.
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       #36

    My View


    Uitlander said:
    Each rendition of Windows has ever more corporate malware/spyware/crapware packed into it than the preceding one. It's a longstanding tradition with M$, as is releasing (or should I say unleashing?) half-baked OSes with more security holes than a colander. That will never change, nor will the fanboys ever tire of playing apologist or cheerleader. Things are as they are.

    I recently switched from XP Pro to Win 7, not exactly willingly, but it's a done deal now. I can foresee the same tactics used to force me to give up XP, now being brought to bear on Win 7, so I have fast-tracked my study of MX Linux. If Win 7 is sabotaged, I'll be ready to move on to Linux.
    I completely concur. Be that as it may the mainstream loves their advertising, their social networking, their online gaming, their GOOGLE and YouTube, Ticky-Tack etc. etc. They want fast and easy, instant gratification, and they want to be entertained. In a word, they want fun. They don't want to mess about in Terminal to understand how to make a program work. This is the Television of the future. Fear ware, malware, bloatware, adware, and every kind of scare ware are out there pledging allegiance to the almighty digital dollar and there is not a thing we can do about it. This is the new job creation program where everyone is on the make and everyone is on the take. And now we can all sit back in our chairs and brace ourselves because GPT Chat is here to stay.

    I just managed to get Windows 11 installed on my Work Station yesterday and what a bunch of nonsense to get it to work on a system board that only sports TPM 1.2. I'm never gonna do that again. So if my PC is over three years old Microsoft treats it like an archaic piece of junk. I'm very reluctant to put Linux back on this machine now because of all the UEFI/TPM "security" protocols compliments of Microsnot. Seems to me that with each and every new Windoze OS the thumbscrews are tightened that much more in the name of the micro-monopoly that aims to own your own hardware. *This is my opinion, of course* LORD help me if I'm no longer even permitted to have an opinion.

    This is a classic; an old charade, a cliche, that has been played consistently over the centuries and I'm surprised at how many today are still eating it for breakfast, lunch, and supper: SECURITY. Security vs liberty. Security vs privacy. Security vs property. Security vs sovereignty. Security vs autonomy. When does it end? Oh, the atrocities committed in the name of "security"! Yup. Microsoft is doing this for my own good. They know Linux is "bad" for me because it might just cause me to think for myself. So let's get rid of that dual boot business once and for all. Right? Not unlike APPLE they're gonna decide what I want, how much I want, when I want, and how I want it. They're gonna do my thinking for me and all that I'm required to do is sit back and take it and keep paying them while they take me for a ride.

    I forgot where I hung my tin foil hat but it behooves me to say that Alex Jones was right about this much:

    There's a war going on for our minds. This is beyond INFO WARS. They don't just want to own the information. They want to own the hardware as well, the mechanical and the biological. They want it all. I'm old and I'm tired of it. Thank you for letting me have my rant. Have fun out there, comrades!
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       #37

    SCANNERMAN777 said:
    I completely concur. Be that as it may the mainstream loves their advertising, their social networking, their online gaming, their GOOGLE and YouTube, Ticky-Tack etc. etc. They want fast and easy, instant gratification, and they want to be entertained. In a word, they want fun. They don't want to mess about in Terminal to understand how to make a program work. This is the Television of the future. Fear ware, malware, bloatware, adware, and every kind of scare ware are out there pledging allegiance to the almighty digital dollar and there is not a thing we can do about it. This is the new job creation program where everyone is on the make and everyone is on the take. And now we can all sit back in our chairs and brace ourselves because GPT Chat is here to stay.

    I just managed to get Windows 11 installed on my Work Station yesterday and what a bunch of nonsense to get it to work on a system board that only sports TPM 1.2. I'm never gonna do that again. So if my PC is over three years old Microsoft treats it like an archaic piece of junk. I'm very reluctant to put Linux back on this machine now because of all the UEFI/TPM "security" protocols compliments of Microsnot. Seems to me that with each and every new Windoze OS the thumbscrews are tightened that much more in the name of the micro-monopoly that aims to own your own hardware. *This is my opinion, of course* LORD help me if I'm no longer even permitted to have an opinion.

    This is a classic; an old charade, a cliche, that has been played consistently over the centuries and I'm surprised at how many today are still eating it for breakfast, lunch, and supper: SECURITY. Security vs liberty. Security vs privacy. Security vs property. Security vs sovereignty. Security vs autonomy. When does it end? Oh, the atrocities committed in the name of "security"! Yup. Microsoft is doing this for my own good. They know Linux is "bad" for me because it might just cause me to think for myself. So let's get rid of that dual boot business once and for all. Right? Not unlike APPLE they're gonna decide what I want, how much I want, when I want, and how I want it. They're gonna do my thinking for me and all that I'm required to do is sit back and take it and keep paying them while they take me for a ride.

    I forgot where I hung my tin foil hat but it behooves me to say that Alex Jones was right about this much:

    There's a war going on for our minds. This is beyond INFO WARS. They don't just want to own the information. They want to own the hardware as well, the mechanical and the biological. They want it all. I'm old and I'm tired of it. Thank you for letting me have my rant. Have fun out there, comrades!
    I decided not to fool with multi-boot stuff, and circumvented it by having two HDDs....the internal one with Win 7...and a SSD for MX Linux, via a mobile-rack installed in the spare 5.25 bay. The mobile rack (Syba SY-MRA55006) also has space for another HDD, which I hope to one day to use for cloning Win 7 as a 'Plan B' for System Restore. I have boot order set for DVD>mobile rack>internal HDD.

    Yeah, 'security' is always the selling point...worked for clearing away the protest against DRM/HDCP, gussying up the tarnished rep of TCG and their Trusted Computing crap, keeps the updates-addicts busy, and works equally well for sleazy politicians.
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  8. Posts : 241
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       #38

    Uitlander said:
    I decided not to fool with multi-boot stuff, and circumvented it by having two HDDs....the internal one with Win 7...and a SSD for MX Linux, via a mobile-rack installed in the spare 5.25 bay. The mobile rack (Syba SY-MRA55006) also has space for another HDD, which I hope to one day to use for cloning Win 7 as a 'Plan B' for System Restore. I have boot order set for DVD>mobile rack>internal HDD.

    Yeah, 'security' is always the selling point...worked for clearing away the protest against DRM/HDCP, gussying up the tarnished rep of TCG and their Trusted Computing crap, keeps the updates-addicts busy, and works equally well for sleazy politicians.
    I still multi-boot but I admit it's a pain constantly repairing it. Bottom line in all this "security" nonsense is liability.
    It's all a finger pointing game where Corporations play legalities to cover their assets while the end user continues to sign off on rights and freedoms. Same as it ever was: The little guy is left holding the bag.
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